No.629
黎明の熾天使・ルシファー
 God
6 ★
MP 5000 Cost 30
 LvHPATKRCVWeightSellExp
19717543693715701350
992428120655466956430133650
 *1 Experience gain bonus from same element
 *2 Weighted Stat: HP / 10 + ATK / 5 + RCV / 3
Inflict Dark damage equal to ATK x200 to 1 enemy in exchange for reducing HP to 1. Affected by enemy element and defense. Randomly spawn 6 Heart orbs from non Dark & Heart orbs.
CD: 22 Turns ( 7 Turns at Lv.16 )
This card can be used as assist.
Leader: Dark Oracle
Dark attribute cards HP x2, RCV x2.
Skill Up Cards
Assist Bonus Stat
HP +243 ATK +60 RCV +83 ( Max Lv )
HP +342 ATK +85 RCV +128 ( Max Lv & +297 )
Applicable Killer Latents
Awoken Skills
Archangel Series
Drop Locations for #629
This card can be obtained by:
- Evolution from Archangel Lucifer
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By Nevermore 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
This monster is a "good leader" it helped and is still helping me through the game, but I am definitely hitting a wall right now.

Lucifer, imho, is an "unhealthy" playstyle. You have 4x HP and RCV, you have a giant nuke, but in later dungeons, when the monsters do more dmg than you can possibly tank, you need to kill them before they attack (ie Satan descended and other major descends). This playstyle doesn't make you learn how to play with multiplier leaders. You won't learn to combo for Kirin, who needs every color but dark because, well let's face it, Lucifer teams are mono dark and you are only going for dark orb attacks. In any case, I still love my Lucifers, but beginners should try and not rely on tank teams and learn how to play multiplier leaders instead.
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Rubicari 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Agree with the unhealthy play style comment. I've been hoping for Luci since i started this game almost a year ago. In 217 ranks, my best pull from REM was hades (gods know how many sirens, pixies, angelions, and vamps I pulled) then I got lucky last week and pulled Bastet. Anyway, I use Luci as helper a lot, and now I find myself (like so many others) having to rely on skilled orb manipulation to clear descended dungeons instead of the old Grav X2-3 + nuke that was the win for so many earlier dungeons. Luci is awesome, & I wouldn't have gotten this far without him, but I now find myself not wanting him from the REM anymore ( which means I'll get him next pull ;)
Last edited by Rubicari 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 )
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Sonofyin in reply to Bahamut 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
For everyone out there reading this wall, switching from lucifer to another leader isn't the end of pad for u. Really, it takes a week or two to get accustom to a new leader, such as haku or Kirin. In addition to that, I find it odd that everyone here seems to think that lucifer teams somehow lack orb matching skills. When I did the descended dungeons, the high defenses meant I had to combo that much more just to beat them. Eventually it became impossible to continue but nonetheless good practice and the furthest thing from a detriment for me.
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Bahamut 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
this. i gotta agree. People with double Lucifer will one day learn the wrath of 60sta descends. Do some quick action and clear, people! use B odin or Sonias, they drill through dungeons quite fast with King Slimes
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Tibbles 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
When I use a double Luci team, I just practise my orb matching while I stall.
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Cchu 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
I am not going to claim lucifer is " the best" , because there is none in this game. I think your comment works for iap. Kirin needs luck and, of course, player's skill. As in all quick-clear teams, low cd of teammates is sometimes crucial. These both need stones. And, some dungeons just do not provide required color. I believe luci works in more dungeons than most leaders. I even used luci team for weekend dungeons with vampire, when I was about level 50. There are dungeons luci does not work, but this is not one of the reasons one should hate him. Also, luci can also be a good sub.

Luci team also require skills. Mostly, one needs to clear heart orbs wisely. But this is far from as difficult as Kirin or geomen. In my opinion, the drawback of luci team is that, it is too long to finish a dungeon, even with 3 gravities. I really wish gunho provide some dungeon to skill up luci. Another thing I hate is, dark monsters are not good looking nor high hp. I guess no one wants a satan in luci team.
Last edited by Cchu 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 )
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Skyknight 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
I figure there must be some way to combine power and resilience. Some third viable option to Stone Wall and Glass Cannon. But I do worry if Gung Ho is overdoing enemy offensive capabilities. Sort of like how I dislike the idea of the Disgaea games' post-main-scenario maps making defense pointless. (I never could figure out how overwhelming power and/or win streaks could be fulfilling on its/their own...)
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Nevermore in reply to Sonofyin 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
I mean it's more like you aren't pressured into knowing when to conserve orbs when using teams like umi yami or kirin. I agree that if you have a Lucifer you arent necessarily bad at matching orbs, but for beginners, the archangels( esp Luci) are easy to lull them into forming bad habits.

I agree, changing to a mltiplier god isn't the end of the world, it just takes time.
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Nevermore in reply to Cchu 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Ehh I think that in general Lucifer is not a good "teaching" leader, but I agree that it's not a bad monster. Basically what I am trying to say is that in terms of playstyles a tankstyle is not necessarily good for beginners to start off with.

Yea I agree Luci is great for clearing a lot of dungeons, I still use him a lot.

I wish though that i had started off with Horus.
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ChOp in reply to Rubicari 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Definitely scared about the rank 200+ and getting nothing worth praising. Im about 123 Rank and i got toycera three times in a row and two pierdrawn (Just a little bit of my horrible luck) If i have to wait for 200+ I probably wont make it. Especially when my GF got Luci,Ares, and Ra in one weekend. <.<
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joey 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
Luci is used for a giant hp pool/ rcv rate when needed. Otherwise nobody has time for such a lengthy grind
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Rubicari in reply to ChOp 4 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 
The REM can be frustrating, but you will (if not already) pull a great one eventually. The Hades pull I mentioned earlier was by no means a bad pull, in fact I couldn't have passed the Hera descended without him! All that being said, in this game you can't always get what you want, but once you pull a great monster (and there are tons these days), you will build teams around them that wasn't in your original plan. Since you are a decent rank already, I don't recommend re-rolling (starting over). Save stones and only pull from the REM during a Godfest.
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DestroyerA 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
It can get you far enough for spike team subs. Such as Valk, Hera Ur, Etc.
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SpaceDandy 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Yeah but some people aren't IAP and don't have multipliers and only a Lucifer
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McSizzles 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
I feel like most "lower" level people pull and pull trying to get him, and by rank 200 most people do. I myself have two, but never really used the second; there was really no need for him. Now taking on mythical dungeons and such, high rank players are finding that their once coveted "Tank Team" has lost its magic..

All this being said, I am suggesting this idea to gungho: Why not make an Awoken Lucifer? Much like other defensive leaders and their now fully offensive Awoken forms, you could make Lucifer into a big multiplier, low cooldown, destroying monster!

Just a suggestion, but I think many people would take advantage of it, no matter the evo materials! By the rank he would be useful, any evo mterial is managable. Thanks even if you dont!
-McSizzles
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Kinglink 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
I've written volumes on "Why you shouldn't hope for Lucifer" when you start the game. he's such a broken leader that the game truly loses it's "puzzles" And even the "Dragons" part, and becomes "turtle"

I love my Luci, and I pull him out because he's so easy and so safe, but the fact is, Lucifer is not a good PAD monster.
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By Arceus722 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
How much can that li'l dragon take? He's eaten up over 300 of my stones, and won't give birth to a Lucifer.
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Cchu 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Wait for that dark monster event(what is the name? Midnight gala something?) coincide with god festival or angel festival, make sure it says luci is included in both events. save 50stones--- this how it worked for me. Maybe this is superstition but I feel the first a few hours when the event begins provides better eggs.
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By ⛺️tnad™@PG 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
GungHo really needs to make an ultimate for luci. They should make its awakenings better cause his current ones suck. Make LS 2x HP 2x RCV 2x ATK for Dark. Maybe add a poison affect to skill like phantom god odin
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Bleye 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
It looks like Luci might get one in the next batch of Japanese Ultis they release.
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Swijr 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
They just announced his ultimate: http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/140305_sinka.html
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By Kai 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
Absurdly powerful, and little skill needed.

Whats not to love?

Though recently I've been trying out a Dual-Bastet healer team, and I must say its much more fun than my lucifer team.
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By nturtle 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
He really is the fallen angel these days, remember when he was the Ronia of like 2 years ago?
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By Bryggyth 4 years ago ( 6.1.1 ) 
Great leader, but dungeons take forever with him xD
Easy to beat a single monster as long as it can't OHKO you.
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By stimpy 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
We had some good times and helped me cleared so many dungeons. But now you will be in my collection collecting dust. Can't take those 45 minutes to clear a dungeon anymore.
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By Belle 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I can't believe I finally pulled this guy at rank 137 =_=
All of a sudden it's like the pearly gates of heaven have opened for me... *angels singing*
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Link 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Same.
Last edited by Link 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 )
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MaiMai 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
got it around rank 180
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By Panguyen 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
They should make an ultimate evolution for him
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Nevermore 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
It would probably make him OP, I own two, so I am not being spiteful. It already has a subtype, a good leader skill and a giant nuke, so making him have an ult evo would be OP. (I am hoping he gets an uvo xD)
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Skyknight in reply to Nevermore 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
Well, if you put his recovery somewhere in the vicinity of -200 (Satan-level recovery negation would be excessive), it might help. Not that it would mean much with Amaterasu or Ceres in the party...
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barnard 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
It is only a matter of time before ALL characters have a Ult Evo. Even the Baron Knights have Ult Evo's right. That doesn't mean to say that they need leader skill changes, or huge stat changes. I would expect subtypes, like healer for Raphael, and Attacker for this Lucifer fellow.
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By Malkovich 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Once you unlock Luci, you now have the start of your very own Bejeweled mode of PaD. You will win. It will be slow and somewhat ugly. But you will win.
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By Arekusu 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Yes! an ultimate Evo! Now he'll be sub water which is more useful in my opinion and he will give a small attack boost. Only complaint is that I was hoping for a 2/2/2 leader skill but it looks like a 2/1.2/2 instead.
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By Cchu 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
The ultra Evo is just better than none. What is the point of adding such a tiny attack? I was hoping a devil attribute or 2.5x hp+RCV or just 2.5xhp or easier to level. Kind of disappointed.
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By Dantes 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
Sweet, Lucis awakenings got a bunch better. 3rd is now resist bind and the new 4th is auto heal. Made him an even better tank.
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By Tigerfish 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
I love the new Awoken Skill for Lucifer - now heals 500 points every turn! It was a nice surprise to see that show up I knew I was saving my Tam for something good.
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By b.wakz@808 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
is auto-recover worth it? i figure that rcv would be high enough that he won't need it
Last edited by b.wakz@808 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 )
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Rubicari 4 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 
Auto heal is always worth it. Once you start hitting the legend & mythical dungeons it can save your booty. Also great for dungeons with no heal orbs.
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Cchu in reply to Rubicari 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
I really do not see auto heal that important, for that most bosses hit every turn. A sub that can heal using skill is much more important, such as kitty baddie or grape dragon. I hope Lucifer's auto heal would be blind resistant or orb change, just an impossible dream though.
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By -Striku- 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
One of these days... i will get you...
Last edited by -Striku- 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 )
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By Ted 4 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 
The halos remind me of Evangelion every time i see them.
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By blaze 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
I recently evolved my Archangel Lucifer to this. Haven't played much since I got him but I like him so far. But I have a question about his leader skill. I know it affects dark stuff. But what about stuff that has dark as the secondary type. For example, in my team I currently have a Dragon Rider Arthur and was wandering if it counts for him. I also have a maxed War Deity Odin and know his evolved form is water/dark too. Same question when I evolve him will the effect count on him? Thank You
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nerdotaku 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Yes.
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By Zelman 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
I was stuck for a while with my only god being Amaterasu, then I rolled him during god fest. Could not be happier because I am progressing again.
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By Xx-B@$$-xX 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
i don't get it, why makes this guy so good? What makes it that everybody wants him??
Last edited by Xx-B@$$-xX 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 )
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SpaceDandy 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
He tanks and nukes the sh!t out of some descends
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BITS 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
He is great for survival to get to boss and nuke them with his skill. My Ronia devil team has roughly 13k HP and just standard blow nuke and never give the mobs a chance. But some bosses are too heavy HP and can't be dropped in 2 turns even with 2 Kaddies and Rebel Seraph.
So I make him my leader and put in a couple KoR and a friends Lucifer and my HP is well over 50k making it usually pretty hard to 1 shot me especially with KoR reducing damage for most of the time.
In essence he is a great leader or a great sub and very versatile.
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Anon 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Like the other Archangels, Lucifer is designed for tanking big hits and recovering from them quickly. However, he stands out from the rest of them for a variety of reasons:

1) Dark typing. This makes him a bit easier to level up.
2) Morningstar. This makes him capable of one-shotting most boss enemies early on, as well as granting him the ability to speed things up in a high level dungeon pretty significantly, whether he is the leader or not.
3) Cheap and relatively powerful subs. Keeper of Rainbow and Hera are both rather easy to get compared to many other farmable monsters, and both are very useful on a Lucifer team due to good stats and useful actives.

All three of these mean that Lucifer can be quite useful, especially if you consider the fact that he requires almost no skill to use. While there are many descended dungeons nowadays that have "anti-Lucifer" measures (ie. an enemy that deals extremely high damage in a rather short amount of time,) spamming a ton of + eggs and fodder can allow Lucifer to bypass even these countermeasures.
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By Tea-Rex 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
I don't know if every beginner is interested the power of Lucifer. I want him because he's pretty and his active skill. I'd put him down as part of a team with a sexy healer or two. *smexy eyebrow action* I'd abuse that with my Memei.
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By reaperpunk 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
Definitely feel like Luci should be half devil because hes the Christian, Islamic, ect. Devil, the one that they call satan... but if he were half devil he'd be WAY to OP
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Momo 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Lucifer pretty much wrote the book on the concept of the fallen angel. Before he was the devil, he was the greatest of all angels.
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mccool37 in reply to Momo 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
He also wasn't the devil according to the original Hebrew texts. In fact Lucifer isn't even the name of the main fallen angel who lead the rebellion, Lucifer is a word meaning son of the morning or morning star (or something similar in concept). In fact Jesus was once referred to as lucifer.
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By Tixm 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
is it better to do ultimate evolution for luci?
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otaku 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
Now it is, with the change to MS.
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By Kinglink 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
This guy is game breaking good.. He was my first leader, and he's taken me through too many descends with out needing REM pulls. He instantly changes the game.

But at the same time he's a bad leader for training because he doesn't teach comboing, or good skill usage, it's just "survive through X rounds get your nuke up, use nuke, rinse and repeat."

That being said if you could choose any god at the beginning of the game, Lucifer should be in the top 5 now, and easily the most newbie friendly.

List of Descended dungeons he can beat with farmable subs and no or one stone (none require a stone, with luck)

Hera, Heroes, Valk, Zeus (four heras, no REM needed), Goemon, Hera Is, Hera Ur, Takeminakata (yes really, he can beat a no dark descend) and soon Izanami will be easy with him...

Behold the game breaker.
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Bread 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
He's not that good.. Expect to only get past all heras, valk, two heroes, and zeus... Any spike leader will always be better than lucifer
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Skyknight 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
I tend to see Seraph Lucifer as more of an emergency bomber (in the sense of STGs like Sky Shark, Raiden, Strikers 1945, and the Touhou games) than a first-resort weapon to begin with...
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Kinglink in reply to Bread 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
every descend I named I beat with Lucifer. So that includes Goemon Hera Is and Hera Ur, Izanami and Takeminakata all with no IAP needed. and yes I beat Izanami (light izanami) with him. He's far more powerful than you give him powerful.

In fact they're creating descends now specially to avoid Lucifer breaking them, because he's just so power.

There's even builds for Zeus Dios that will somewhat work with Lucifer leading, you need 70k but he can even beat those.
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candygirl 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
He is quite good, I agree!
I've always wanted to pull him when I was a newbie, but that feeling kind of slipped away gradually as I began to realize he wasn't the only great monster out there.
I also agree that he doesn't teach newbies how to plan out their moves to make the combos that the extremely hard dungeons require.
I have a friend with Lucifer, and although Lucifer's nuke is amazing, it took away part of the fun of watching the combos build up, and dancing along the screen of my iPad.

In my opinion, wouldn't it be hard if you have a super strong enemy, and they KO you before the nuke is ready?
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JD@PG in reply to Bread 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
I beat Valk on Mythical with a Luci team.
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By Hero 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Can we please have a filter to remove Lucifer teams from descended dungeon party recommendations? I'm sick of seeing tens of builds of Lucifer/Hera/rainbow keeper when I'm looking for a real team.
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Stan 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
some people have luci and not the fancy sonia, odin exc. so stop complaining cause they help some people like me
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BITS 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
I use:
Lucifer ... Lucifer ... Hera ... Pandora ... Echidna ... Lucifer.
I do go with KoR if I need HP threshold, but I like the orb change ability of Pandora to keep it fresh. Even through in my Ronia in place of Pandora if using Ares friend.
Lucifer is good with just about any dark sub. So take your pick.
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By WukngBalla 4 years ago ( 6.1.1 ) 
whats up with the hate on lucifer? I love having him 2x luci tank anything :)
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By orz 4 years ago ( 6.1.1 ) 
My hero
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By Zgod 4 years ago ( 6.1.1 ) 
Red odin almost kicks his ass.
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otaku in reply to Cchu 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
It's the minimum skill part that's so annoying. :-)
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Amy in reply to Cchu 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Most descends require strength the first round.They will not even allow you to stall. You will need more than a nuke to clear it.
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Cchu 4 years ago ( 6.1.1 ) 
You won't think so when you get to most descent dungeons and you have to KO the boss with full health or below certain health. The only leaders better than luci iare attack x3+ with high hp+at. Also keep in mind there is no monster good for all dungeons, but double luci team works at least 95% dungeons with 0 stone and minimum player skills and $ :)
Last edited by Cchu 4 years ago ( 6.1.1 )
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By Vic 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
I have him but I rarely if not never use him at all because I am loaded with better monsters such as RGuanYu, GGuanYu, DMet, LMet, fully evolved Three Heroes set (Cao Cao, Sun Quan, Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao, Liu Bei, and Lu Bu), Awoken GOdin, RSonia, and "One True God". However I do pair my Lucifer (or my Lu Bu) with my Vritra sometimes cause that 150x damage is insane.
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By Guest 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
need other Lucifer friends
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By Bahamut 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
I'm kinda getting sick of the double lucifer builds and its amounts of time to clear descends. I told my friends, "hey, gotta stop using double lucifer, two head banging hours isn't really worth your time, and also no skill." Then they're like, "lucifer actually requires skill, such as 'timing' the 'nukes' and gravities." Despair in awe, I find human natures as very patient of this generation. In my opinion, it's really unnecessary to use an hour or two of no skilling a descend or a hard dungeon with 0 stones. I'm glad that in the present update Gung-ho released the two deadly Twinlits and the Three Trifruits, and soon the Golden Keeper.

Although I already came up with my opinion, I ask people this:

Does Lucifer require skill?

#lovesonias
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azj 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
Actually lucifer does require skill, when bosses hit like 18k a turn with 8k rcv base. You need to combo at least 6 times to maintain survivability. Now imagine this. Boss hits 18k every turn and you have to make sure you get those 3 heal orbs every turn or else you will die. Not getting those 3 heal orbs means you have to heal 36k or hope for more than 3 heal orbs. 18k with 8k rcv base is excruciatingly painful. Having to average 6 combo at least imo is pretty good(which is what i do). You might think 6 combos isnt that much, now try to do that over 200 turns in a row. I had to beat hera-is without any heras because my team cost was too low, and I beat her with like 5 sets of nukes. It is beyond painful.
Lucifer has many "prevention system" subs like ceres, bodin, drawn joker,siren, neptune, 2-4 heras, shiva,dark izanami, and rainbow keeper. 4 heras will pretty much kill every boss. Drawn joker is too easy to get 5 turns to heal back to full. Ceres is too good for bind recovery, which kills all lucifers. siren is basically drawn joker but no dark att, neptune is amazing because it saves time but isnt worth using, but may save your life.
Shiva is amazing against those pesky 600k defense monsters, dark izanami is a better version of rainbow keeper. I remember someguy had like 110k hp as lucifer and used lucifer,dark izanami, dark zeus, hera-is,underlord hades, lucifer. Breaks through everything. Tanks everything.
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Bahamut 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
In my additional perspective, using Lucifer teams downgrade one's interest of playing PAD because of the same boring stalling actions the player is recommended to do.
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Bahamut in reply to azj 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
This guy only "breaks through everything" because he has played so long to have such monsters. What Im saying the basics of using Lucifer as a year-under player. It takes long, and im sure everyone knows of that. As a Red Sonia user, I honestly never awoken it and its level 40, +20, and i use a Red Sonia helper lvl 67 +49, never awoken. I stall a little while (while that i have healing advantages due to 6.25 RCV, which means a little mind loose on healing, as i treasure hearts) on mid intervals until Sonias and K Baddie is up. What happens to te boss after i get there in 5-10 min? Dark flames rule over hellish land that the bosse's egg would be mine. I never had to go through the 35 turned MS, did I? ^_^ feel free to counter me
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DKnight 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
My own opinion as a newbie-ish player is that AA Luci really is not a leader you want to be stuck dependent on forever. As other say, spending every dungeon stalling for 35 turns to nuke the boss is very boring.

What makes AA Luci still very desireable is that for a lower rank player, you can use him along with high HP cards like KoR to "cheese" some of the easier descends, then get a boss egg that you can build a REAL end-game team around. Think of what a light valk, Hera-Ur or Athena would do for a player that can get her 100 ranks below where most players get a combo team high enough to beat their descends?

But later descends are deliberately designed to make an AA Luci cheese team nearly impossible to win with. But get those awesome Hera cards and valk and then win the correct way! ;D
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Bahamut 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
Come to think, I love doing Trifruits on Thursday with Sonia(except that one dumb tamadra and GULLLPPPP!!!)... and see people struggle on it using lucifer teams (might sound like a dumb idea)
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By klickklack 4 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
Soooo what do you consider having two luci's of your own and all luci helper friends, if two luci's alone is unstoppable? Lets just say I'm working my way to greatness kids!!!

I started from the bottom, now im here... what

Also I'm a non-IAP guy
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Vinny 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Oh wow i hate Drake even more now =P
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Amy 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I think AA Lucifer teams are great for beginners but when you hit hard descends he falls short and is best as a sub. Many descends don't allow u to stall so you have to rely on more then just one big hit 15 to 35 moves. If u can survive until u get to the boss then great but try doing descends like Sandalphon, Thoth and Sopdet, or any of the Zues Descends and unfortunately 3 Luci will not be enough.They are highly technical levels that require more that AA Luci can offer.With that said he is still a viable sub and is not useless by any means.I do think it would be exciting to see another ultimate evolution that would be more end game friendly.
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otaku 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Your wish has not been granted.
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-Striku- 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
*upvotes* wish granted. You still call me a hater?
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Stan 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
me too. Lucis are the best u haters
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ThatZigGuy 4 years ago ( 6.1.1 ) 
Sounds like someones a little upset they still haven't gotten a luci on a pull yet. Maybe one day your wish will come true son.
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