No.3222
紅蘭の黒魔女・シャンメイ
 Devil
8 ★
MP 25000 Cost 99
 LvHPATKRCVWeightSellExp
1100281262147016354013
99281219031001995161865397238
 *1 Experience gain bonus from same element
 *2 Weighted Stat: HP / 10 + ATK / 5 + RCV / 3
Randomly spawn 6 Heart orbs from non Dark & Heart orbs. Reduces cooldown of other skills by 1 turn.
CD: 12 Turns ( 7 Turns at Lv.6 )
This card can be used as assist.
Devil type cards HP x1.5, ATK x2. All attribute cards ATK x3 when reaching 2 set of Heart combos. ATK x1.5 for each additional combo, up to ATK x4.5 when reaching 3 combos.
Skill Up Cards
Assist Bonus Stat
HP +281 ATK +95 RCV +150 ( Max Lv )
HP +380 ATK +120 RCV +195 ( Max Lv & +297 )
Applicable Killer Latents
Awoken Skills
Grayed out Japanese cards
Halloween Series
Drop Locations for #3222
Unfortunately, there is no way to obtain it so far.
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By (°~°)@PG 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Just to verify everyone's assumptions, she's really rare and not worth pursuing if you don't get her within your first 5-10 rolls. Just for the record, it took me almost 40, and I'm a lucky one already

Anything after that the sheer amount of silvers doesn't justify saving yourself the trouble and buy her with MP

Apart from that she's not that much better than the regular XM. She's not worse either. It all depends on what subpool you have available. However, with optimal teams, it still balances out. The red one features higher RCV overall (since you have 2 or more XM) and the halloween one uses Akechi, which has bad RCV. She can build with more subs, but using subs that don't fit into the elite category are what drags her down to the level of the normal one.
Last edited by (°~°)@PG 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 )
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Sonofyin in reply to nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
That's what the numbers told me too lol. I want someone who says that the rcv is bad to break it down numerically with comparisons to fire Xiang Mei, Gadius and both Myr. A few more if possible but I don't run any other heal atk buff leaders to know what those would be. Just seems odd that I can't see where they're coming from.
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Sonofyin in reply to (°~°)@PG 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
I understand the low rcv sub pool but is it really an issue? With 297+, rcv latents and one sub with rcv like UU pandora, dual Devil Xiang Mei doesn't look like rcv would be a problem. Since u have her and use her, would u say this is a problem or simply a minor difference? From the outside looking in, it looks like the latter to me.
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Sonofyin 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
The downvoting is fine and all but I'm not being rude. I don't see why the ppl who bother to downvote won't actually address anything I've asked. Why waste the time downvoting when instead u can explain why I'm wrong? So this could be a productive discussion and help everyone interested in this unit decide whether or not they should pursue her. I understand downvoting for rude or inappropriate comments but asking a serious question should only need a well explained answer.
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(°~°)@PG in reply to Sonofyin 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
EDIT:

JP players are gods. They seem to remedy lower RCV by making enough combos to make any positive RCV overheal

The only thing I see is that running several lower RCV subs reduces your ability to stall without actives. I was unaware hastes that didn't form a system were so effective.

For instance, one heart combo on many HXM teams don't heal very much, which is a problem in certain situations. Once you've got 6 or more hearts, then it's no big deal.
Last edited by (°~°)@PG 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 )
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Taosym 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Halloween Xiang Mei can run both Pandora ults, Gremory, etc. Saying she has bad RCV is hilarious when her optimal subs all have high RCV apart from Awoken Pandora and Akechi. You can easily offset that by using a Gremory with RCV latents or a UUEVO Pandora for gargantuan RCV and +Hearts. Typhon Ana has way worse issues with recovery and you never hear this bad argument about her teams.
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Xemkiy 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Got her on my first/only roll on the Halloween REM :D
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Sonofyin in reply to nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
The rcv issue is something I don't understand. My dual lead Gadius and Myr teams have 4000 and 5000 rcv respectively. With UU pandora at 297+ and Devil Xiang Mei dual leads at 297+, I already have close to 4000 rcv without counting the other potential subs. Is her health pool really that enormous? Cuz I never have a problem healing with Gadius or Myr. And with the nature of the leader skill, how is it really that hard to rcv when u need to match heart orbs in order to gain the atk buff? The entire team will be based on making heart and dark orbs so u have actives to compensate for shortages. I just don't get it. Is it cuz I don't have and haven't played a fire Xiang Mei team?
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nathan@N17 in reply to (°~°)@PG 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
DXM had no problems healing in a no hearts machine zeus dungeon. And in fact, my awoken cao cao team usually heals more than enough before his recovery boost even kicks in. If I get 2 heart combos, I'm already healing 20k-30k by itself. Even more with enhanced hearts (like pandora) seeing as healer xm doesn't have Yamato to do the same
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nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
See people are so misinformed. I just watched this card beat machine zeus and recovery was no issue. An ideal dark team > everything
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nathan@N17 in reply to Sonofyin 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Nope, you're not wrong. Just people making idiotic statements. Watch the vids. She heals without even trying
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By DKnight 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
I'm disappointed that the 500K MP monster for halloween is an Xiang Mei dark clone rather than a dark or fire Myr (maybe that'll be for xmas).

XM is already been eclipsed in the game meta by the heart cross teams, and so now they introduce a dark version of her? I suppose if you play and spend so much that you have everything, her artwork is great and might be worth the MP.
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Sonofyin 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Um dude, this is a game where not all leader skills and play styles are the same. I get asking for a Halloween Myr cuz she would look amazing as a witch (or in some other adorable costume). But having just Myrs for all events and neglecting other units would eventually be boring. I absolutely love Myr but seeing one of her in every att/typing, making everything obsolete would kind of be depressing. Seeing a new art concept for Myr in each event is different, let me be clear on that. I want to see different interpretations and themes. Just not making 90% of other end game leads useless lol.
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nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
I HATE this concept. Just because Cross leads is "new meta" that does NOT mean other tactics don't still work. Name a dungeon myr or kaede can do that something like this can't
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Potato in reply to nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Agreed.Seems like the "Meta" is made up of more leaders that is "interesting" to play whereas if you have efficient and able leaders but aren't as interesting to play they get disregarded.
Last edited by Potato 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 )
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By Mr-ex777 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
[Sorry for my stupidity for thinking that this is on the same barrel as fire healer Xiang Mei.]
Last edited by Mr-ex777 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 )
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kushi<3 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Cause Pandora, Akechi and Gremory don't exist...
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By Taosym 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
The people saying Halloween Xiang Mei is bad are those that religiously refresh Game8 to determine what teams they're going to run.

Considering you can beat all relevant content in the game with Sherias Roots and you can now combo him with Halloween Sonia Gran tells you how obsolete and dumb this whole tiering system is that people cling to.

Play Armored Batman (post buff), Typhon Ana, Gremory or Xiang Mei. They're all pretty much the same in survivability and damage. So pick the one you like and have subs for and ignore anyone who cites Game8 like it's the bible of PADX. That's the honest truth.
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By wellis 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
well if i dont pull her, i can just sell my monsters and start all over with just her and my dropables. or i can sell my wife, trade one witch for anouther. (now im hopeing she dont read this comment, due to she is a pad head as well.)
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nathan@N17 in reply to Jathra 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
"If you can find a team"...like the game is short on dark devils.... Apparently fire healers are more abundant
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Jathra 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
This card isn't really -that- good. Its like a dark Lakshmi with HP instead of RCV and a requires a specific monster type (seriously we have moved past 2014). Better than Lakshmi for sure (if you can find a proper team) due to the HP, built in high RCV and her leader skill, but worth selling your entire collection for? Probably not.
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wellis in reply to Jathra 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
sorry i just thought it was funny sorry, but i agree not worth selling the collection but it might be worth the wife
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Jathra in reply to wellis 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
lol
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Sonofyin in reply to nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
U never know how the rem will treat u. I have the complete collection of some series and haven't been able to snag just one of other series over years and years of pulls lol.
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Jathra in reply to nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Dark devils that make hearts so you can actually activate consistently? Not so common I'm afraid, not impossible though.

I can find 6 or 7 of them in the game, all REM.

Fire healers that make hearts are more rare however, ill give you that much.
(Although I have like 4 Mitsuki's sitting in my box so lol..)

Still this is not worth selling everything for as the OP joked about.
Last edited by Jathra 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 )
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wellis in reply to Jathra 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
so your saying go ahead and sell my wife, i just want to be sure before i do.
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Jathra in reply to wellis 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Thats up to you man not getting involved with that decision lol.
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By Guest 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
As a new player, I am very excited to see the arrival of this card. I started playing just before the cross meta took off and never got into it once it arrived. I tried. But no. Not for me. I guess metas come and go, but everyone has a play style (or styles) they feel more entertained with and a game like this has the opportunity to present players with variety. I am personally relieved that Gung Ho isn't making end game content out of reach for non-heart crossers and still produces "new" leaders that I can have fun with. It doesn't matter to me that they might struggle a bit more with the content, for that just means I can put more effort into beating it using a play style that I enjoy.
I just pulled Halloween Xiang Mei this morning without having to whale. I got lucky. It was as though the non heart cross egg machine gods were listening. :-P
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By kushi<3 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
artwork is a solid 10/10 just for Xin Hua in the background!
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Greg! 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
That version of Xin Hua is SPICY
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kushi<3 in reply to Greg! 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
There are two type of girls on Halloween: Xiang Mei and Xin Hua
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By Lady Susan 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Danny Devito would love to eat this.
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By Sonofyin 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Here are two healthy things to note.

One, the meta is the best and most ideal strategy to conquering the game. That isn't to say that it's necessary or fun. But a unit's role on a team and meta is important to note. Especially on a site like this where ppl seek advice and strategy. So when ppl say this unit isn't worth the mp or rolls, they usually mean it in that context.

Two, the meta isn't necessary to beat the game or necessary for fun. In any game, nearly everything is viable depending on how and who is utilizing it. Just bc something isn't in the meta doesn't mean that it isn't worth ur time, attention and effort. When ppl say this unit isn't worth it, they should probably provide more context which is something most of them do. But with context there are exceptions. It goes without saying that this is a generalization bc the teams ppl have available can vary widely. For instance, if u don't have fire Xiang mei or gadius (or anyone with similar leader skill) but a heavy dark devil team with heart making actives, this is a good opportunity to use a similar play style and experience the game in a new way. Whether or not something is worth it depends on HOW U WANT TO EXPERIENCE THE GAME.

So yeah, it's depressing when ppl are saying a beautiful, definitively viable unit isn't worth it but if they have reasons listed, don't see that to be a bad thing. It just means they're giving an evaluation and advice that is freely available. I know this is obvious stuff but meta talk always makes me sad. Had to remind myself and hopefully this reminds other ppl out there. If Devil Xiang Mei sings to how u want to play (more than other mp units) then remember to play b4 anything else. It's not as if she'll make things difficult lol.
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By nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Seriously though. The fact that people come on here and see the valid points down voted they are led to believe them to be incorrect. I get it you don't like me. Whether it's one of you with multiple accounts or multiple people. But you being salty about something that was said a year ago and trying to say I'm not contributing to a page is no different than you pointlessly down voting the comments. How sad would your life be if they took away the voting system. The only complaint i have seen is 500k mp (which IS a lot) and recovery. The first is a personal choice, just like with any mp purchase. The second is just completely false. If you get this card you will face no repercussions except heavily penalized dungeons (like binding devils, though that can be easily countered IF you have the means). This card is easily a force that can do whatever you need. Just wait
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(°~°)@PG 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Well, I've done some research, and with some things pointed out by Nate and some other players I have come to this conclusion:

With a regular team, she is marginally more powerful than RXM. Keep in mind this is relative to everything. Not enough to break the heart meta, not even close. Still outclassed completely by the farmable monstrosity that is Miru. For the sake of how broken heart crosses are, she's in about the same position as the regular one. The only thing I'd comment on your post is that "she can do anything you need". She simply isn't on the level of the heart cross leads. It's false to say she's bad, but its also false to believe that she in any way can compete on equal ground with everything else in the new content. I believe you said "what can Miru and Kaede do that she can't". This is deceiving. A lot of teams can do what Kaede and Miru can. The difference is that Kaede and Miru have more reliable, efficient, and arguably fun playstyles. Regardless of what she can or can't clear, she isn't on the level of the newer leads, Setsu himself said that it's a waste of time comparing leads that don't measure up in the new meta. While you can certainly appreciate old style leads, saying she's on the level of newer leads is mostly untrue.

The first problem is something she shares with the normal one. Even with a pseudo system, she's incredibly orb hungry if she can't stall. She struggles greatly without actives or a place to get all your skills back up. In theory you could just clear the board, but it's not as easy as it seems as content gets more and more difficult.

The other issue is, some of the best subs are extremely rare. But addressing the RCV issue...

Pandora, Gremory, and other common subs have decent enough RCV. However, some of the strongest offensive board changers have RCV of 0 or in the low hundreds. If you use Lubu as a bind clear due to the rarity of Gremory, then that's 0 RCV stab. Use Zuoh to combo with Pandora, 0 RCV. Hypermax leads give a bunch of RCV, but there's only so many low RCV subs you can tack on without noticing the consequences. While sub diversity means that she has more options, utilizing her expanded sub pool to avoid relentlessly pursuing the "perfect team" has disadvantages, as I said, hurting RCV most of the time. >With the best team components lying around, it isn't an issue<

Also, dark absorbs are rather plentiful compared to fire absorbs. Could change at any time. Not a huge factor

Therefore, I stand by my original position. You've got the perfect subs lying around? Great, HXM might be for you. Perfect RXM team lying around? If you don't want to participate in heart cross cancer, then investing in one is a solid option. You're really not missing out on anything. Two XM and the other components provides a much stronger team than a subpar HXM team

Although I'll say this. Until XM (probably both at the same time) gets a buff or RXM gets an ultimate, >neither one< is worth the MP unless A) you've got no better leads and a bunch of MP or B) You're a collector/whale. Being a RXM main myself, it's hard to see my former best lead fall underneath all my other teams, but the meta is changing. Don't get fixated on something that you don't know whether it will ever rise up again

This is my final conclusion. I'm done evaluating this. Best to look forward instead of analyzing what will probably soon join her original sister in relics of the second tank meta
Last edited by (°~°)@PG 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 )
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Sonofyin in reply to (°~°)@PG 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Thanks for the lengthy evaluation. I appreciate the time and effort u spent analyzing and for expanding on the rcv issue, mainly how to counter act it in terms of subs/hyper max. Never played an XM team so I'll know to be careful of stalling/running out of skills.
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By sani♡ 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
feeling dangerously sad
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By mist@pt 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
I have the perfect team for you and no Gremory but are you worth the 500K?
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By Aufheben 11 months ago ( 11.0.2 ) 
So I bought her for the 500k MP just a few days ago and she's now been fully skill-upped and is nearly level 99.

I ended up choosing a combo of her and Tsukuyomi Dragon over purchasing DAthena, on my tiny little non-IAP main account, and it was for the sole purpose of using her (and the dragon) as subs on my Noctis team. Even if she's row-based rather than prong, her raw stats - particularly that beautiful RCV she has - as well as her active skill far, far make up for it. With Noctis' all-around stat multiplier, her recovery makes healing the team's massive HP pool a breeze, and her having pretty good base ATK means she can keep up with the rest of the ATK type based team fairly well in terms of burst, particularly if the board I get just doesn't quite work for prongs.

Her lack of sub-type and sub-attribute are a bit annoying, as well as her lack of bind-resist, but that's acceptable considering she's not actually a Healer type, despite the RCV. The former, however, is kind of confusing considering she an 8*, but again, she's a great card to have otherwise and it's good that there is a balance to how powerful she is.

Overall, I'd say she's a great niche sub if you really need something to fit that spot on a team, and definitely worth the 500k if you're in need of her, and can afford to acquire her. The rolling rates are supposed to be terrible though, so I don't think that's all that great of an option unless you've already pulled her and are just trying to fit her into a team. If that's the case, don't sell her, just hang onto her for a while and see if you can use her as a sub, or inherit her skill.
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By Potato 6 months ago ( 12.0.3 ) 
Would love to see a price drop or a buff. Right now she's very niche, mostly used for her assist to make 6 hearts.
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By Nick 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Anyone else finding that heart orbs are spawning from heart orbs when using her active in NA?
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Potato 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Yes I noticed it too
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By Sonofyin 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
So I've played her. Got lucky and rolled her. :):):):) My team was dual Devil Xiang Mei leads, UU panda, A panda, A vritra and Ame No Uzume (Max lvl but no uvo). Two heart combos and 5-6 combos got me around 70%-80% of my hp back. My hp was 45kish. Nothing is hypermax. Ame no Uzume I had there bc i plan to use her awoken as bind clear for my devil teams. (I personally like going in with two attributes just in case im missing the main attribute and need to finish an enemy)

idk about the best strats or meta tactics. This team is missing nearly a thousand pluses and has no way of solving jammers/poison/full board change. Nonetheless, I think the rcv is an easily solved thing with one rcv heavy devil like UU panda, hypermax and rcv latents.

Would I pay 500k for her? Probably, I think I have the subs to really make her work. Plus it's two in one, Halloween versions of Xin Hua and Xiang Mei! Though I would like to make it known that I care little about end game or meta. If u're looking to conquer the game, it's probably best to wait for another meta unit like Summyr for that 500k. Nonetheless, she is still viable and in the right hands, im certain she could be very deadly.
Last edited by Sonofyin 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 )
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By nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Lol I feel like people are hating just to justify not rolling or spending 500k. Do what you want to do, but don't misinform people by saying she sucks

*typo*
Last edited by nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 )
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secret 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Even though she can clear most, if not all content; there are stronger, faster, and more reliable leaders for a lower MP cost. And there's also the option to purchase subs to improve other teams which have superior leader skills.

She's just an all-round poor investment compared to what else is available.
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(°~°)@PG in reply to nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
I never said it would be bad. I just said it would be worse in comparison to the red one. I merely said that the imbalance of a higher health pool and a lower RCV pool than the original makes it clear what you're sacrificing for gain in offense.

@Greg!

Probably not. I started playing in the AA Luci/Ronia meta, so I'd hardly qualify as a new player. Yet I'm the one who emphasizes on how HXM isn't the "super OP dark devil lead" that people general want to think she is
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Jathra 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
I don't think she is a bad card, in fact she is quite good. If you have the MP to blow then go for it, hell maybe even just for the artwork.

I just don't think shes the 2nd coming of Jesus or anything either.

I do have to agree with nathan though on the RCV issue, or rather the RCV non-issue. On a team that is going to be clearing 6+ hearts every turn just to activate even with only 2-3k RCV on team you will be completely fine.
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nathan@N17 in reply to secret 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
You can farm mp. You can farm mp since coop. You can farm even more with certain changes and updates. I never said she was the best, I never said she was a worthy price. If you want her, you want her. And you can't dictate what other people do. But in order to do that, they need the right information. Like her recovery is JUST FINE even though people said it would be bad
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Sonofyin 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Here is how u can justify the 500k mp price. PAD is providing Xiang Mei's leader skill to devil based teams. It's an opportunity for players low on fire healers but high on Devils to use a team like Gadius or Xiang Mei. A painful mp price is the balance I would think. This is a good thing, giving players more opportunities to customize a team based on what they already have instead of hoping for 3 lucky rolls in order to say that buying Fire Xiang Mei would be worth it.

Think of it this way. U have two pandoras, virtra and something else that would kind of work on a Devil Xiang Mei team. But u have only New Years Mitsuki for Fire Xiang Mei. Are u going to burn 300k on fire Xiang Mei and hope for Gadius+other subs? Or burn 500k on Devil Xiang Mei and already have a team ready for her? I would take the 200k difference fairly if I were in that position. Less plus egg farming, hoping for lucky rolls and skill up fodder grinding please lol.

She may not be in the meta but she is far from worthless. I have a sweet Gadius team that I used to farm Myr with and I still intend on going for Devil Xiang Mei...mainly bc my dark team play has been neglected since Myr came into power. Also she's just too pretty 4 me to ignore. As painful as the mp price is, it makes sense to me. I feel like this is the role of event units like this. High mp at the cost for a sub pool that is readily available.
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Sonofyin in reply to Jathra 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Careful with that. Apparently agreeing with Nathan can destroy a perfectly valid arguement lol.
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Greg! 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
I kinda noticed that it's the sort of new players (higher PADX ID numbers) are those that share the same sentiments about Halloween Xiang Mei being not that great. Coincidence, maybe? Lol
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nathan@N17 in reply to (°~°)@PG 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Well like I said before, it's clear in videos that healing is no issue so it does that seem like you are sacrificing anything. Just gaining more power and better subs
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By nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Hahahaha haters in full force. 3 hours ago all of my comments were +5 ....all this time later and people are still salty AF
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(°~°)@PG 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Maybe if you didn't go parading around making separate comments just to agitate downvoters you would stop receiving so many of them
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nathan@N17 in reply to (°~°)@PG 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Nah, trust me. It's alot more complicated and pathetic than that. I can legit say something helpful and never post again and they would still hunt my comment down
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Greg! 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Oh boy I thought it would work out lol. Egh, I guess this card doesn't appeal too much to the guys on here. But anyway, just to summarize:

• Farmable MP to buy an amazing card with a ginormous sub pool
• High HP due to HP buff
• Okay RCV due to having the highest RCV in game
• Constantly making Hearts, so you shouldn't worry too much about RCV as well

If it doesn't appeal to you guys, then don't buy it. But don't call her worthless. By all means, sell her if you're able to roll one lol
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