Please don't incorporate Jammers into the new Greek Gods please please please
Greek god. But a tribal tattoo hmmm
Warning: Rant incoming (scroll down to avoid)
Ok so first, what the hell is with this art Gungtroll? I appreciate the cameo of other cards' weapons in there and also the cyclops, but mythologically Hephaestus was a cripple. So where's his cool steampunk mechanical legs or transforming wheelchair mech suit? And I won't take "Greek gods being able to shapeshift into any form they wish" as an excuse.
Second, he's the god of the forge. The last thing a cripple forgemaster would do is to be carrying around that fiery spear of all things, which would be as useful for him as a walking stick. I'll let the hammer slide since it'd be used for his whole forgemaster thing. Still, Attacker type makes little sense considering his mythological role as a person who lets others do the fighting, Machine would be more appropriate (even though i also realize that Machine is underused and Fire/Attacker would be more useful from an in-game perspective)
Third, the theme of his AS/LS is revolved around Jammers, a gimmick that sees as much use as carbuncles do in Arena. The whole screwup with Fenrir was already disappointing, seeing as such an impressive mythological being would be reduced to one of the most garbage gimmicks in the entire game. Now Hephaestus joins the party, and he's not even the same color as Fenrir and actually breaks Dark orbs, so neither Fenrir nor Hephaestus benefit from this curse that will keep them useless until viable subs and leaders that are Jammer focused start coming out.
Fourth, as a person who started out with a pseudo-grind Persephone team as starting roll back in the simpler days of 2013 PaD, as well as a person who wanted to see Hephaestus in game for awhile now, I hope to the gods that Hephaestus isn't reduced to being useless fodder for Awoken ults, and even more so that Awoken Greek 2 gods don't include this whole Jammer-reliant garbage. Jammer orbs are made to be useless, Gungtroll had better not curse the Greek 2 Awokens with useless garbage add-ons.
Whoever reads this far, have a nice day.
Last edited by € rial 5 years ago ( 8.6.2 )
Recently released descended gods are often weak awoken materials.
Not this guy.
I see him as a non-rem sub.
First-off, his stat weight is great for a non-rem monster.
He has the attacker sub-type which is rarer than most, meaning he could fit into some attacker teams.
His active is pretty good - if used after a Leilan active, you'd get a 2/3 enhanced fire board, for example. The jammers require some planning, however light -> fire & fire enhance seems worth it. That fire enhance can bring a big damage boost! Plus, even if the jammer meta seems silly to you, this guy will be a staple for some jammer teams.
Finally, his awoken skills - as a non-rem card he's expected to have few. Skill boost is always relevant, and his prong awakening is good too. His fire enhance synergizes with his active skill.
Overall I think he's stronger than the other descended gods released recently
Last edited by candy 5 years ago ( 8.6.2 )
I don't see all the hate for Hephaestus. The jammers are, indeed, useless and hindering for some, but they could be easily tolerated with board-changers and well-planned comboing, not to mention they don't really hurt you, like poison. Besides, he's basically a farmable Chiyome with more attack, so why all the hate?
Combos with Antares or any of the mech1 gods which can turn jammers into their element. For Antares, the red mech1 god, that'd mean for two actives you get a board with fire, green and blue orbs - A board that's 2/3 fire.
And at 8 turns CD, if Hephaestus' active is followed by Antares, then thanks to haste, Hephaestus' active will become available again @ the same time as Antares'.
LS should be ATK x6, RCV x9 when Athena is in the same team ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
The only two I can recognise off the top of my head are Athena's shield Aegis and A. Minerva/Zeus Vulcan's sword (the one he's holding).
Ooh, I'm glad I didn't sell Denebola. This is a farmable sub that is basically perfect for her and will give her a consistent 36x attack. If only they had awakenings to take better advantage of the enhanced orbs.
Am I the only one that read this as Awoken Hepatitis?
I am the bone of my sword.
Steel is my body fire is my blood.
I have created over a thousand blades.
Unkown to death
Nor known to life
I have withstood the pain to create many weapons
Yet,those hands will never hold anything
So as i pray . UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS.
His active skill is surprisingly good for a farmable. almost as good as sanada, who is REM. sanada makes hearts though, which is extra useful. but same cooldown, same build in enhance.
Look at that g0dd4mn hipster beard on that cyclops. just look at it.
... Huh.
I just realized that Hephaestus has the same L -> F Orb Change that Chiyome does, as well as the Jammer one and the Fire Orb Enhance. To tack on those two only adds on three more cooldown.
He also has a TPA and a Skill Boost like Chiyome, and trades out the Fire Row for Orb Enhance. Ditches the Blind Resists entirely.
Furthermore, he has more than 800 HP and 200 ATK than her in exchange for less than half of her RCV.
Finally, Chiyome is Balanced/Devil and Hephaestus is God/Attacker. At least there, they can cover different, specific teams.
Considering that Chiyome is REM (and can only have an increased rate when pulling during specific Carnivals) and Hephaestus is farmable, who's better?
Last edited by Moldy 5 years ago ( 8.6.2 )
where is his chariot? He's lost his ability to walk in mythology
This is somewhat useable for a Shiva Dragon team. Sure, the jammers are a nuisance, but tolerable. Shiva Dragon teams should really aim for rows over TPA anyhoo (yes, it has tpa too, but if you run Rodin and Shiva, rows are the best course)
This is great for people who have ShivaDra but don't have any Ares/Uriel or don't have four of them total. His dungeon's not insane, and if you could max skill several of them, you could fill your ShivaDra team with him for a pseudo-system. With one SB each on an eight turn CD for all three monsters, you can use each of them once, then activate both ShivaDra to get them all back up, and use them all again once each. ShivaDra/Ares/Ares/Ares/Ares/ShivaDra is obviously ideal, but if you have less than four, you can fill the rest with Uriel, and if you still don't have enough, just max skill one of these.
Turn that frown upside down
What izanagi should have looked like
You know, if you don't like Thanksgiving dinner here's what you do- when no one is looking, take all the contents of your plate and roll it up into a ball and hide it in your coat. Later on, when you go out back to smoke cigars with the boys, start coughing and throw all the food in your coat on the ground and say "d*mn, these are some good cigars!"