5 ★
MP 5000 Cost 15
 *1 Experience gain bonus from same element
 *2 Weighted Stat: HP / 10 + ATK / 5 + RCV / 3
  • Change own attribute to Wood for 1 turn.
  • Attacker type cards ATK x1.5 for 1 turn.
CD: 10 Turns ( 3 Turns at Lv.8 )
This card can be used as assist.
Leader: Gale Fencing
Wood attribute cards ATK x3.5.
Same Skill
Assist Bonus Stat
HP +292 ATK +86 RCV +33 ( Max Lv )
HP +391 ATK +111 RCV +78 ( Max Lv & +297 )
HP +493 ATK +141 RCV +89 ( Lv 110 & +297 )
Applicable Killer Latents
Awoken Skills
Super Awoken Skills
( Random 1 of 3 )
Assist Evolution
Reverse Ultimate and Assist Evolution by using:
Grayed out Japanese cards
Brave 1 Series
Drop Locations for #1881
This card can be obtained by:
- Rare Egg Machine
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By Lewa-Kal 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
What an odd series. I can't get over the fact that they are 5-star REM pulls without leader skills. Maybe they will get one when they ultimate evolve?

The best part about these guys, though, is that you don't have to waste your time evolving them to use them. Pull it, slap some Tamadras on it, and stuff its face with enhance materials.
Ferracene in reply to reaperman 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
2 months and I am still waiting for the down-voters to make me eat my words. Can someone please show me a video where the active skill is the deciding factor in clearing a descend? And yes I will keep visiting this page until they buff the active to change the entire team!

And who cares if ONE of your cards can escape an element bind if that bind has NO WAY to clear a bind? If you could avoid a bind and then match a row, then maybe that would make sense. That just seems so extremely situational I couldn't even think of an example.

And this card isn't terrible - the attack IS nice, dual TPA IS nice, and red attacker? Gotta love it. All I'm saying is that the element change is weak and 1.5 attack for one turn isn't really a show stealer either.

Heck I would settle for it changing the element of itself and the two neighboring cards! if you did that on an enemy for which the new element was its weakness, plus the 1.5 attack, now you are looking at a real difference.
Baedrian in reply to Ferracene 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
It might work to use it on a verdandi team, since she boosts green and red. It would be an ok spike too for her.
Scott in reply to Ferracene 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Awkn Bastet Ult Devil Rush Video below. I'd swap perseus for awoken ceres after watching cuz hes bound like the whole time but shotel's 3 turn cd with an extra atk boost is nice here. I'd imagine in longer dungeons having a 2 tpa off color monster could help for trash mob clears when you don't wanna waste a green orb change active.
Last edited by Scott 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 )
Ferracene 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
And now that I think about it, the active for these cards should have been "Change ALL cards attribute to ______ for one turn." THAT would truly be useful and be less situational - and definitely not OP. I cant think of a single way to use these guys otherwise. If they were to do that, this series would make it on everyone's must-have list.
Ferracene 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Maybe GungHo finally decided that they have read enough complaints and stopped wasting our time by giving terrible leader skills to monsters that were meant to be subs. I mean seriously, what were they going to give the series - 2.5x attack for all monsters on the turn an element is changed? I need this card like I need another golem. Welcome to the REM, Weapon Series.
Meta in reply to Ferracene 6 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
all i need to say is awoken basset and 3 turn cool down
Jump 6 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
I smell a green secondary ult-evo.
Ferracene in reply to Meta 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
All I need to say is show me the video. I've watched a lot of Beastet videos and have never seen this card in one. By your logic, you should waste a space on Super Gunma or whatever it is with the one turn CD. I really want to see the player who pulls off awoken meimei or ult vishnu or any low cd wood orb maker for this. I'd like to meet them so I can shake their hand and congratulate them on having Awoken Bastet and having no idea how to use her.
Ferracene in reply to Baedrian 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
I'm guessing the people who up voted you do not have a Verdandi, a knowledge of her LS and typing, or a clue. This card would get no boost except 1.5x hp until it switched. So for 2 out of 3 turns, assuming maxed skill, their team is losing 17% attack. Then they pop the skill and realize verdandi is balanced, not attacker. Then they realize there are so many other viable teams for Dandi that they wonder why they wasted the tamas and exp on this card. Then they realize that most players don't get stuck on Blazing Highway and then they quit and go back to Candy Crush.

That's who up voted you.
Ferracene 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Hate hate hate. I'm back again. I gave it 6 months this time... sooooo... can I get some YouTube videos of Shotel the Conqueror turning C10 into Tower of Trials?

That LS. So terrible, they should have left it blank. A LS that ONLY works for the leader when the leader pops it's own skill. And then you have to meet the HP requirement.

I've seen Kopis (the light one) used as a viable sub, but no one dares use these as a lead.

See you all in a few months, when I come back to throw salt on this card until it has hypertension!
DLish 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
I think it is a perfectly fine card for A. Bastet. Very low cooldown, farmable skillups, good stats, double tpa, off color is basically meaningless for trash, and 1.5x is plenty of damage buff when it is also activating the Bastet leader skill and turning 36x into 54x. Is it part of an ideal Awoken Bastet team? No, but it is probably the best damage enhancer card for bastet and is certainly better than GZL at 8 turns. 3 turn max becomes even more awesome if you pair with a haste card like meimei.

Honestly, I think this card would be used more if it wasn't so weird. People go looking at green cards for their green teams and this gets filtered out and overlooked. It is easy to miss the fact that it is a 3 turn max card that is green when it counts on the boss, has damage enhance for cards that people are likely using on their green team already*, and has double TPA with 709 weighted.

*Liu Bei, Vishnu, MeiMei, Kaede, Michael, Pirate Sonia, Sasuke, Rider Robin, etc.

All that said it has a really crap leader skill, could use an ult with extra awakenings, and really isn't very useful outside of A. Bastet.
Mr. Zen° in reply to Ferracene 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Actually, I used a similar active to clear Room of the Sacred Mask. Forest Cat Dragon lead, Lilith, Mistuki, Kurone, Thumbelina subs, and Bastet partner. Forest Cat dragon allowed me to tank every hit, so long as I never got hit twice in the same turn or hit below 50% HP. Given how weak the other cards are, and how high the blue Nash's defense was, only Thumbelina could touch it, and only after Forest Cat Dragon's skill had been activated, while below 50% HP... Kinda complicated, but surprisingly consistent. And yes, this skill was the determining factor (:
SaltyS@OTS in reply to Ferracene 6 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
OK fam. Ik almost nobody in PAD will see this comment. As this page is absolutely loaded with comments over a very controversial card in a very controversial series. But I am deadset that this card is absolutely fantastic.

Its not only important that this card changes color. Its the fact that it goes "upstream" in type advantage. For a quick example that comes to mind, lets say weve got a red attacker CaoCao team cobbled together, with this card popped on. Now were fighting a water type. while every fire type is gimped to half damage, this card goes up to double. for arguments sake assuming all cards have the same attack, this card when green, outputs the same damage as 4 other fire team cards combined. That, with the AS boost to all attacker types.

But enough about that dated lead. Lets look at viability on a modern endgamer, the premier red attacker A. Shiva. Every third turn your LS of x20 gets boosted to x30 by her active. sure your loosing a bit since Shotel loses the 1.5 to fire type when her active is used, but across the team the difference is more than made up for. If you even go so far as to slap a verdandi on the team, (unaffected by shotels AS), you have a team that can very easily switch between almost mono red, to almost dual color green/red.

one things for certain, this card is NOT for teams that boost by attribute. Its for adding versatility and burst to teams that can afford to incorporate it
Banjomarx in reply to Ferracene 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
a monster who can change its element, has 1.7k attack and 2 tpas and u think its bad!?!?!?! lol
reaperman in reply to Ferracene 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Do you have any idea how useful these things could be for avoiding binds? or changing for one turn to spike and then going back?
Paradragon 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
I'm pretty sure one of the upcoming JP patches will give these guys leader skills, but not very good ones and these will be more for subs; the news article may have changed and they might stay with no leader skills but if the leaks are correct, they get something like 3.5 or 3 or something attack over 50% hp if i remember correctly.

EDIT: I went back and found the article:
Last edited by Paradragon 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 )
Davido in reply to Ferracene 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
One useful thing about these actives that I've been speculating about is that you could enter a dungeon that might bind monsters of a color that is strong against the main dungeon colors (situational though) but the leaders would avoid being bound. However, I still don't know why avoiding those binds would really matter if all the subs that get the damage boosts are bound by the same color bind...
Semper in reply to Ferracene 6 years ago ( 7.5 ) 
Hera Rush.
Awoken Neptune team.
Seems perfect to burn through Is/Beorc first 50% to get to safe zone.
By Spera@TFB 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Last edited by Spera@TFB 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 )
By DSveno 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
For a 5 star Attacker, isn't her stat pretty good?
kadian1365 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
and 15 cost and dual two-prongs O_O
By Prospero 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Shotel. ...Hotel.....Holiday Inn. ...First this chick keeps pronging us...Then she boosts her friends......(oops 90s flash back) Anyway this card seems pretty decent sub. Delgado, verdandi, liu bei, leilan go rather nice with this card. Fire / wood team is not too shab. Definitely not leader material as of yet but I will remain patient as gung ho seems to pull rabbits out of hats with making chars OP from out of nowhere. Starting this card off with 2 tpa and 2 skill boost I can't really think of any cards first form that can compare to that. Now back to some Snoop and Dre while I spin one up, lay back, and wonder what ever happened to waiting to see what happens...ugh back in the day this comment would have taken a day to load up on the message wall but now I'll get down voted before I can even refresh the page. Patience my young friends......good thing come to those who wait.
Smilla 6 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
The name reminds me of Tommy James and the Shotels. Crimson and Clover is surprisingly apt.

Teach.Me 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
pitbull song that features an hotel room?
gargoyle in reply to Teach.Me 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
No. That's Snoop Dog.
By Goran 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Leilan active + this beauty. Gungho seems pushing attacker + TPA teams, and I'm happy with it.
By Locke 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
5 mil for it is steep. Stats, awakens, and even active I'm ok with.
By Vigdis 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Really dig the artwork for her (it?). I just think it's a great design. Looking forward to the english release for this group, they look like a lot of fun.
By DidKikarus 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
You hear about that Puzzle and Dragons? They've got curved swords.

Curved. Swords.
defz 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Here's to your PAD adventuring days and hoping you don't take an arrow to the knee
By Junstarr 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
She looks indian
By candy 5 years ago ( 8.6.2 ) 
I've been using my +297 Shotel as a Bastet sub for awhile now to consistently clear Zaerog Infinity.

She's great for co-op because I can pop her on an early floor and she'll be up again multiple times.

Specifically as a sub for bastet she offers a low-cooldown way to trigger bastet's 2.25x damage boost, which is extra noticeable in co-op when sub skills technically recharge at half the rate.

The blade braves' multi-boost awakening gives them 50% more attack; with two prongs and a 50% attack boost that means the blade braves get the strength of triple-prongs (in co-op). However, factor in their active skill, and congratulations, your blade brave will be hitting like a quadruple-prong monster

All blade braves will hit for 5x damage on prongs on a turn their skill is used; here's the math:
1.5 prong boost * 1.5 prong boost * 1.5 multiboost * 1.5 active skill = 5.06 multiplier
Last edited by candy 5 years ago ( 8.7.0 )
By Starspark 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
She is holding two Shotels, curved swords that were designed to attack enemy behind the shield.

Talking about shield, Kopis got one...
By Spencer 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
very clearly for Verdandi.
By Yoan 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Just rolled her today on the REM. Although I have a Norn, it isn't Verdandi, unfortunately, so I may have to sit Shotel out until I have a proper team for her. After testing out her active, it changes both her main attribute and her sub-attribute to Green, for those who are curious.
By timbo 6 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
i could see this being useful for awoken bastet..ESPECIALLY if liu bei is on the squad. hope to get that water cat in NA soon!
Fallen 6 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
I couldn't agree more. These monsters are not so bad once you find the right team for them.
manesero 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Bastet team is the way to go with this monster, I agree.
3 turn cool down at max level gives you bastet/bastet each at 5 turns, and Shotel at 3 turns.

You could nearly cycle through bastet 36x combos EVERY turn if you had a couple of these on your team.
By Dan /r 6 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
For anyone wondering. When you user her ability it changes both her main AND sub attribute to green.
By Kit Games 4 years ago ( 12.0.3 ) 
I'm disappointed that these "weapons" weren't included in the newest wave of Reincarnated Evolutions called Assist Evolution. They'd be kind of perfect considering they are named after weapons, and they need some kind of change to make them more useful as assists.

Ah well, guess she'll continue to collect dust in my box for now.
By Dr. Psaroo 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
A question:

Which one of these monsters you think is the edgiest?
By Destro 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Completely useless; but I am afraid once I sell her Gungho will give her an uevo and LS with something like "8X attack on any orb matched"....
By Keiji 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Wow... If ever the definition of "Power Creep" needed a picture next to it, it would be these series. 15 cost, great stats, excellent awokes, and useful actives.

Definitely want one of these. Red, light, or dark would fit nicely in my teams. Anyone know when they coming to NA??
By 神PBR@PG 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
By Blood Rage 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Do you guys think that double blade is better with Verdandi, cause I see a use with Verandi as leader
Prospero 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Yeah I run her on Verdandi, with double liu bei, ult vishnu, and this firestarter. It wrecks everything. Her 1.5 boost is perfect with no need for orb enhances as the team has 5 orb boosts on awakenings not to mention 6 sb, jammer res, 13 tpa with 37k health when running dual verdandi leads. .And if you want team skill bind res sub in a perseus for one of the liu bei. Bottom line is that there are very viable teams for this card can't wait for an evolution.
Last edited by Prospero 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 )
By Limboaz 5 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Why pollute Godfests with this kind of worthless garbage?
By Guroga 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
I guess she goes along with Liu Bei's UVOs or Verdandi
By NthDegree 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Cao Cao might like her along with Drake if you don't own Nym, but that's about all I can think of.
Last edited by NthDegree 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 )
By TradyJones 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) the only reason to change attribute to keep certain bosses from binding your whole team? Seems kinda lame. I have never once thought "it would be awesome if my char could change attributes". Miss me with this series.
By urtoast(F) 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
She stole Gundam Sandrock's weapons.
By dusz3k@PF 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
If Lautrec was a woman.
By tachii 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
I'm wondering when the active skill is actually useful. I mean sure the 50% increase is useful, but changing an attribute? I guess the monster belongs in duo/tri attribute led by Attacker leads.
Last edited by tachii 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 )
By fronzz 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
lets get some team ideas going for this series, especially this one. i cant seem to figure out what would work. my main lead is vishnu and i run mostly wood. help a brotha out, thanks everyone.
By oyamibun 6 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Just pulled her from the godfest, I'm pretty happy with it since I'm a low rank. But what team would she be good for? Her leader skill sucks. :/
By ¡Crusty¿ 6 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
They could've at least given them complimentary sub attributes instead of only buffinf themselves once every 10 turns. Or would that make them some of the beat leaders around?
By Eurytus 6 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
I was completely unimpressed when I got her.

Then, I was really unimpressed when I pulled a second one.

Then I pulled a Verdandi, and I said "I can work with this..."
By Vincent 6 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
Got her in a godfest with a dragon samurai (at least she was a plus.PLUS water cat dragon is active hope I can max skill her :D
By ADHDTV 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Change sub attribute/element to wood please.
By Red 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Get her skilled up and she'd actually be an awesome sub for Diligent Spy, Ishida Mitsunari. She'd obviously be able to use her skill immediately on turn one, giving you x16 right away if you need it, and then every three turns after that. And his active charges this skill right away, even if you used it last turn. She'd be able to stay Wood ATT a good amount of the time, thus reducing the lost synergy from her being Fire ATT by default.

x16 guaranteed every three turns + more often because of other card's skills doesn't seem bad to me. It's maybe not as consistent of a team for farming as our average always-on x9 team, but this seems like a pretty good step up from that that doesn't require making a ton of combos when your x9 team can't one-shot bosses anymore.

I'm not the most skilled player though, I could be overestimating how good this strategy is.
By Dee 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Just pulled 2 of this today. x1.5 gala (3 pulls) < x4 GFE (2 pulls), thanks RNG.
Not too disappointed though, just need wait for water cat to come again to max skill and she'll go right on my Bastet team to turn Liu Bei and Cao Cao even bigger monsters that they already are.
By Boromir 6 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
This is an interesting card for A Horus mostly red team. The switch to green and 1.5 boost for a turn is great against water enemies.
By Xenopuss 6 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
These guys (the Warrior series) are my favorite for farming. Put them as a leader and, even though they're pretty weak, that x3.5 is quite nice.
By GregAmeric 5 years ago ( 8.6.2 ) 
Weird card all around. Thought of selling let. Maybe there is a future place for it in a far away land.
By Soulfx 5 years ago ( 8.6.2 ) 
Her skill is very effective versus water attributes. She will be very usefull in my shiva team
By Ferracene 3 years ago ( 13.0.1 ) 
Thought I forgot about you, Shotel?! I never forgot, and am glad they finally found a way to make use of you. New equip evo is solid.
By Traceur 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Guys...imagine how strong this is for Urd. Covers water weakness and has 2TPA & skill boost. PLUS 1.5x every THREE turns for attackers...this is huge!! As Albert Einstein said "if you judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree it will lithinking whole life believing that it's stupid" gotta look at it from the right setting, no one cares about what teams it's not good for. Look at the teams that it is! This is huge for Urd and the other Norn series. And who cares that it won't get the fire bonus from Urd, it's still giving 1.5x to 4/6 monsters (including friend. Still a good monster in the right light
Last edited by Traceur 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 )
pooker 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
"covers water weakness"
When in normal (fire form) attacking Water type, X damage*LS*LS/2 = 4.5-6.125X

When changed to wood attacking Water type, X damage*2 = 2x

You do the math.
Last edited by pooker 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 )
K3nnk34p in reply to pooker 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
But when it changes its attribute, does it change the main attribute AND the sub attribute? Because if it only changes the main attribute then it WOULD still be buffed by Urd.
pooker in reply to K3nnk34p 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
I didn't think about that. I assumed both would change. I guess I should figure that out before judging it.
By Mamasaurus 6 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Pulled in REM during Players Choice. So, that's BS.
Boromir 6 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
You're not guaranteed a players' choice card.
By JD@PG 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
"Shotel, Fire norikae change to Wood."
By JD@PG 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Reminds me of how their active skills changes their attributes to a different color that is similar of what they did in Ressha Sentai ToQger. Basically Shotel is ToQ1Gou.
By kandjar 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
She does have Sonia look, doesn't she?
By Vincent 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
google translate says its name is hyperbolic sword warrior shotel
urtoast(F) 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Google translate is also stupid. The second kanji has many meanings, but the most likely one in this case would be "curve." Making her "Twin Curved Swords Warrior, Shotel"
By Dean 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
This card seems to be made to be a GZL sub, and even then it's only good every 5-10 turns.
Vermillion 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
There's a card named Cao Cao which this card supporsed to be made for.
By nturtle 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Shotel rhymes with hotel... actually I dunno where I'm going with this.
Sangu 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
perhaps you'd like to take Shotel to a hotel?

but take my advice, be nice if you wish to entice, lest she excise your mice for your vice.
i hope i was concise.
By James 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻ in reply to James 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
(do you accuse everyone everyone who disagrees with you to dislike you with alt accounts? but I digress.) I'm not here to start a comment war. I'm just here to give you some advice, and that advice is, wait. It doesn't matter if gunghuo takes a year or even two years to give these new waifus some buffs. You understand that they know this, and they are experimenting right? In fact, attribute change can be too op if gunghuo plays their cards wrong. You should show these new cards some love and (like I said before) Be happy with what these new waifus are.
It's a new generation of attackers! It's a new mechanic! It's a new year, so let's stop this comment war, and look forward to what gunghuo has to offer. :)
-Striku- in reply to (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻ 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
I support this comment. "New ways to play" ~gung-ho 2015
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻ 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Did you literally just comment on every single one, and say uhhhhhhh, welllll? These attribute changing attackers are pretty good. I mean, two dual prong attack? you just need to wait until they get accepted. Take gryps rider and dragon rider for example.

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻ in reply to James 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
It's honestly sad to see a person get so mad about pad but whatever. I said take gryps rider and dragon rider as an example because they were considered trash rem drops AT FIRST. You just need to wait until they get accepted.(as I said beforehand)
Lewa-Kal in reply to -Striku- 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
One of the best uses for these guys would have to be the Attribute-restricted technical dungeons. "Look, I brought this fire card... Fooled you, it's wood now!"

But even then, Masamune is the only one that can pull it of well, seeing as Shotel would be hitting fires with wood attacks and Claymore would be hitting waters with fire attacks.
Amy in reply to (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻ 6 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
I like u ;)!
Starspark 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Her skill only change her to wood attribute for only one single turn, and 1.5x attack for attacker will not work with GZL's x2 attack, so she is really not really a ideal member.

James in reply to Starspark 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
I'm pretty sure i said GZL would be better for F/L Horus, not both this and GZL.
James in reply to (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻ 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
exactly. at "first". When they were first released They "were" trash. They still "wer" till they got their Ult Evos. if by what your saying is true, then we'll have to wait a year+ before they get "good". You my good sir on (multiple accounts to down-vote me for some odd reason), have just contradicted yourself.
James in reply to (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻ 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
The riders have a actual useful active. dual prongs mean nothing when their active itself puts a dent into how it can be used at all.
Now, i at least put some thought into where it is usable. Have you? its really nice of you to down-vote me. although i hardly think that matter.
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