No.1646
地獄の魔神王・サタン
 Devil
8 ★
MP 100 Cost 70
 LvHPATKRCVWeightSellExp
11336710-9999-305712002925
9966661222-9999-2422118800289575
 *1 Experience gain bonus from same element
 *2 Weighted Stat: HP / 10 + ATK / 5 + RCV / 3
Active: World's End
Inflict Dark damage equal to ATK x300 to 1 enemy in exchange for reducing HP to 1. Affected by enemy element and defense. Randomly spawn 6 Dark orbs from non Dark orbs.
CD: 35 Turns ( 15 Turns at Lv.21 )
This card cannot be used as assist.
Devil type cards HP x1.35, ATK x3.5.
Skill Up Cards
Applicable Killer Latents
Awoken Skills
Mighty God Series
Drop Locations for #1646
This card can be obtained by:
- Evolution from Satan, King of the Underworld
Eternal Jail of the Devil King
Other tiers of this card can be obtained from:
Ultimate Descended Rush!
Demons-Awakening Materials!
Satan Descended!
Satan (+99) Descended!
Ultimate Devil Rush!
Ultimate God Rush!
Challenge Dungeons! 7
September Quest Dungeon
Dark Challenge!
Devil Challenge!
Zeus Challenge!
May Quest Dungeon
November Quest Dungeon
Egg MachineDra Challenge!
December Quest Dungeon
Egg MachineDra Challenge!
Descended Challenge! 19
Descended Challenge! 11
Descended Challenge! 9
Descended Challenge! 6
Descended Challenge! 4
Descended Challenge! 3
Descended Challenge! 2
Descended Challenge! 1
Satan Tournament
Ultimate Devil Rush!
Ultimate God Rush!
Multiplayer Descended Rush!
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By Vath 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Those Chaos Devil Dragons look a bit random and unnecessary. I dunno, just feel like their art doesn't match Ultimate Satan.
Last edited by Vath 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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_(:3 J<)_ 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Agree,they look like bad photoshop.
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Bryggyth 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I like them personally. I think they demonstrate that he is supposed to be huge.
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★Liao24★ in reply to Bryggyth 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Yeah but they look like stickers rotated at a bad angle.
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Onlyname 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
They probably look like that because their outlines are too clear, if they blurred it a little it would look great.
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寒天 in reply to Onlyname 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
It's probably also because the shading is done differently from Satan, and they're entirely in the foreground. Like, there's nothing in front of them, so we have no sense of "where" they are, depth-wise. Their body parts are scaled so that they look like gigantic dragons, yet Satan is designed to look about human-size; yet the dragons are closer to us but way smaller than Satan, so that just screws with perspective. Plus, there's no effect that suggests that they're flying. That's why they look so 2D and awkwardly floaty.
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L(>o<)L Qz 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Chaos Devil Dragon for scale
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El Rayo in reply to Bryggyth 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Agreed. They make him look even cooler. CDD is also a great sub for a Satan build so they are appropriate in his art.
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kev 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Possible that the artist used the size of Satan from Dante's Inferno where giant ogre's that were size of towers was minuscule compared to the arms of satan
Last edited by kev 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 )
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moocow 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Back in '88 all the cool kids had stickers on their trapper keepers and they looked so cool I just had to get me some stickers like the ones they had, all thick and puffy so they just popped out at you and looked almost like patches instead of stickers, at least that looked like what they were trying to do. I tried and tried, but all I could get were those stickers from the coin machine at the pizza hut, all flat and sparkly which was so 1986. Then one day this kid saw my flat stickers and said 'why don't you ask satan for some better stickers?' I said 'satan has stickers?' The kid said 'satan has all sorts of stuff. Roger got a new skateboard last week.' so I asked satan for some puffy stickers and he said 'KID YOU LIKE DRAGONS?' I said 'not really', and just like that he said 'YOU DO NOW!' and he threw this pack of 8 puffy dragon stickers at my head and I was sweaty so the back part stuck to my face. I was so excited I put them on my trapper keeper right away and two days later the sticky part came off while I was walking to class and the stickers fell off and landed in a puddle. This monster reminds me of satan throwing those stickers at my head. Don't trust him. He'll give you crappy stickers and they won't stick to your trapper keeper.
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MileZero in reply to ★Liao24★ 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Rotated at a bad angle? Haha what angle do you want them at?
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Mancy 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Clip art added in obviously
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Yeffrey 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Arts not so great but it really gives a sense of scale and how big he is compared to these big dragons
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Walrus 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I wish the CDD's where not in front of Satan, I want to see all the details in his art. Although I would pay for those CDD if they made them into decals for my car.
Last edited by Walrus 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 )
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OrbTrolled 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
now that you said it...

I thought CDD was like 3-5m... but if this is true... this Satan is like... ~20m... lol
Unless Satan got some Chibi CDD. :P
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Knouffy 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
He's so badass he throws Chaos Dragons as his attack, and they are thrown so hard they burn the air around them purple.
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By Link 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Probably the best sub for a healer team! Best stat stick around.
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Yi Xuan in reply to Horus 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
ever hear of sarcasm?
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By rivas 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Don't know why so many people are complaining about the evo mats and saying that the HP boost is miniscule, a full Satan team will now achieve 30k plus health easily which is a very sizable buff considering he also has 3.5x attack(all of this essentially unconditional) He also doesn't need more awakenings since he already has 3 dark rows, 30 percent extra damage from just one monster is substantial. I see this buff as an extremely huge quality of life change in the stalling department for some higher CD skills or unskilled sub's. All in all a very welcome buff and I will probably finish my dark row devil team now.
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El Rayo in reply to nathan@N17 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
And I personally don't think Satan was made to beat dungeons like Zeus Vulcan. That's what REM cards are for. You're expecting far too much for a card that is farmable. Yes, I did want extra awokens, but 6 row enhances with just 2 Satans packs quite the punch alone. I said that if he got more awokens he would be broken, or worthy of being promoted to the REM. His new addition to his LS gives me 46k hp which is plenty more to take on other descended dungeons, but certainly not all of them. CDD is a great option for a sub whether you agree or not. Otherwise we're dependent on the REM for dark orb manipulaters and that's a game of probability that usually doesn't work in our favor.

Complaining about a card because it can't beat X dungeon is pointless because every leader has it's own advantage, and each descend often requires different/creative builds to conquer unless you have an Anubis or Ra and have mastered orb movement. It's all a huge puzzle. That's the point of the game. There isn't a one-piece-fits-all option. And Ceres is a personal want of mine. Pay that no mind. It seems like ppl just complain just to complain. And have fun skilling up Hades. The skill up rate is abysmal even with the 2x rate. And the addition of a fire sub type opens up a myriad of options with many of the new UVOs coming out. I'm done.
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El Rayo in reply to nathan@N17 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
You are clearly unworthy of the King's power. Stalling for skills is never a prob. Any experienced Satan player knows you go for creatures with more dark rows, orb manipulations, or active skills with low cool downs. Going into a dungeon with Hades would be stupid because you won't have the time to stall for gravity. you take King Baddie, Lu Bu, or D/W Batman. Vamp is a must and even Chaos Devil Dragon is a great sub. My team's hp will go from 25K to about 46k with the hp boosts. You're crazy to think I can't take on more (harder) descended dungeons with that much hp. If I ever get a Ceres my team will be complete. Any further boosts to Satan would have made him broken and OP. He's perfect the way he is in his D/F form.
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Jswags87 in reply to El Rayo 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
Just added satan to my haku team and steam roll through with the row enhances not much stands up to the the proverbial roundhouse kicks to the teeth this team dishes out!
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nathan@N17 in reply to El Rayo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Dudee I said skills for orbs, NOT a gravity. And technically you could definitely have a hades skills before lubu. And having one orb changer isn't going to help you any. Like I said yeah he can take SOME descends but their lack of effort definitely prevented his potential. I'd like to see you take on something like zeus vulcan or even dios with that team

And if you go back to his previous form, you said yourself that you were expecting awakenings and more, but now that he didn't get any of that and just more HP you think he's broken? Not even close. Your team you even suggested to me doesn't even make any sense. You say you can't stall for hades but yet you want ceres? And if it's for her auto heal, that is nothing compared to the damage real descends dish out. Devil dragon has a 15 cooldown, and is pretty difficult to max skill and even then it's at 10. Only thing thatrreally made sense was vamp but honestly how many times can you use him in a real descend? I'm not hating on satan. I farmed him expecting more. *by a real descend I mean the ones with mini bossess through out. Not that newby sh!t like hera*
Last edited by nathan@N17 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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By thanos 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Satan should have at least a prong attack or immune to bind, cmon he is the freaking unmatched God of Hell!!. that 1.35x hp boost don't make for the freaking Gold keeper (I can farm just fine those angellit and devillit but the gold Keeper I cant due to the preventive strike dungeon)
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Side_ 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
or atleast SOME KIND of awakening bonus, and yeah... I kinda need help on keeper gold too....
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By Tony 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Wow, for 4 devlits and one keeper of the rainbow, you would at least expect one additional awakenings, the stats aren't even worth your evo materials. I would consider the fire sub element over blue right now though.

P.S. I meant to say Keeper of Gold. And, Satan's hp multipler to me doesn't suffice the evo materials yet. I will have to test him out to back my statement up. GungHo should still give this guy at least one skill boost. His active skill takes centuries to come by before you kill the boss!
Last edited by Tony 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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Bryggyth 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
With the HP boost it actually sounds like it will be awesome.
With double satan leaders at max level without + eggs, you get:
(6666 + 6666) * 1.35 * 1.35 = 24298
And that's without subs. Devils tend to have highish HP, so I'll assume an average of 3000 HP each.
(6666 + 6666 + 3000 + 3000 + 3000 + 3000) * 1.35 *1.35 = 46168 without + eggs vs 25332 HP without the HP buff. That's almost double HP. And with 0 RCV you might need that extra HP to soak up a hit and kill the boss. Also helps for pre-emptives.
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Gleipnir 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
His LS get a HP buff, this is not bad at all considering his pretty decent HP :)
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Felix in reply to urtoast(F) 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
If you're using Satan, it's unlikely you'll be using his skill. Just sayin'.
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Kizaru@PGF 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
True, I was also slightly disappointed at the fact Satan uvo didn't even get a single extra awakening and also how that abysmal stat increase. Maybe it might get an awakening buff later down the road but I think for now his true strength lies in that Hp multiplier.
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Caedes in reply to Felix 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
its good for goemon, especially now that he has a fire sub atribute
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Tony in reply to Caedes 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Yes, he will do more damage with fire goemon team. it's still a risk to run goemon as a team unless there are no damaging pre-emptives.
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Tony in reply to Bryggyth 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
You're right. Ceres also offers 30% heal on total hp. Which is amazing if you needed to heal. Yes, the satan hp boost is actually really great on top of his damage out. Everyone has an ideal satan devil team. I did the hp calculation for my team and this is without any plus eggs that I don't have anyways, the hp total comes out to be about 32,260 hp but you can achieve about 50k without sacrificing anything. With plus eggs hp is out of the world. I had my doubts because I didn't think about the all of the factors that come with the hp boost. What I would run for quick damage is two D/D Hakus, Lu Bu and my FA Lucifer.
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secret in reply to Gleipnir 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Because of the HP boost from two Satan leads, the usefulness of devil Ceres increases.

I can't be asked to math or simulate right now, but would it still be impractical to try and stall for Satan's active even with Ceres' full heal?
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Paradragon 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
and atleast give him god/physical/attacker type, sheesh. talk about an overrated 8 star.

EDIT: and that team cost coupled with that of decent devil subs is not quite what I call team synergy. nice art tho.
Last edited by Paradragon 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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Yui@PG/r/ in reply to Gleipnir 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
only "decent" hp? Satan's HP is through the roof!

But I don't think any additional awakenings are necessary, a 1.35x HP Boost is insane considering two Satan leaders alone already amount to over 13k HP. 3 Dark rows are already one of the best awakenings you can ask for on a Dark Devil leader.
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SymptumX in reply to Caedes 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
does anybody use goemon anymore?
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urtoast(F) 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
33,300 more damage from his skill at level 99. That's a nice chunk and makes it worth it to me.
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By @?! 2 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
So they finally made Satan an ult evo material. Now people wont' complain when they say that there's no point of getting Satan :)
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By Onlyname 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I'm kind of sad that he didn't get at least 1 fire row, that would have made him godly.
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By nada 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Because of his extra 111 attack damage from his ult, his skill does 3(666)00 damage.
Last edited by nada 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 )
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By C A R L 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Athena got an 8 star uvo with an hp boost added to her leader skill and 3 extra awakenings. Why can't satan have 3 more dark rows?
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moekou@PF 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Because Satan has way stronger leader skill? Athena's is 1.25X HP, 3X Attack, Satan is 1.35X HP, 3.5X attack. Combined with Satan's naturally insane HP, the team can tank preemptive hits like a champ.
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Yui@PG/r/ 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Are you trolling? Do you realize how crazy it would be to have a monster with 6 Dark rows, regardless of it having -9999 RCU?

The reason why Satan didn't get more awakenings is because frankly he doesn't need them. 3 Dark rows is some of the best you could ask for on a farmable monster. Athena's previous awakenings were complete crap, which is why the add was necessary.
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angel 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
3 more dark rows tho really.. Like sometimes think about what you're saying. Just with 2 satans alone you would have 12 dark rows... That would be extremely op. I get what you're saying about Athena getting more awakens and satan probably should have got more awakens but even 1 more row would have been OP.
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BlackWoods in reply to moekou@PF 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Pretty much what this guy said
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Fenrir in reply to angel 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
i agree, you basically have a row team with 2 satans alone already. adding anymore would just be overkill considering hes a non rem god. hes imho one of the strongest leads in the game thats non-rem and even over some rem gods.

my current lead is satan + will always be satan until of course dungeons become too hard + impossible for him. T_T then ill just cry
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Pootyclown 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
are you seriously asking for six dark row enhances on that already beats out ultimate ronia as best monster in d/w form?
Last edited by Pootyclown 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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By El Rayo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
You guys are seriously complaining bcuz he didn't get extra awokens? His power is insane and his leader skill just got so much better. The HP boost will easily take my Satan build over 33k which means Satan builds can take more damage or more preemptive strikes. I am more than satisfied. And the art is absolutely amazing. Can't wait!
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El Rayo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
So I did the math wrong and my team's hp would be ~46,922. Yea, I still don't get the complaints. Satan is ridiculously strong and any other boost other than his attack and LS hp boost would make him OP. I guess you can't please everybody. I've been destroying dungeons for months with Satan. This hp boost will allow me to try different descended dungeon. I am extremely excited. Time to farm for devilettes.
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ChaosS in reply to El Rayo 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Agreed. I just Ult evo this guy, he is on par with my Dmeta. Of course my Demta is better but that's because she has pluses and REM. But this card is good.
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By NWell 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
okay... so, it is 4 devilit and a keeper for ONLY that extra 1.35x HP ==''
Sooo generous....

Satan is great. the 1.35x HP is good.

BUT WE EXPECT MORE!!!
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By Rubicari 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
At first look this evo might seem lacking, but after thinking over the numbers its a decent evo (though I agree an extra awakening or two would really make me happy). As others have pointed out, the HP increase is very nice (putting my own team over 50k), the Atk increase is also decent (ANY extra damage for Row enhance is appreciated). Now Worlds end has the ability to deal over 500k or 1 million to a light monster, which is naturally the most powerful nuke in the game. This makes me want to skill my Satan up. Lastly, I like the Fire sub replacing water (always thought it should've been fire).

Edit: 1 year later (I swear it's been longer), Except for speeding through Star Vault for kicks, I don't really use him that much anymore. I feel he's been left behind with what all the new cards, ult evos, & upgraded awoken skills that all the other older cards have gotten since this came out. There's not even a reason to have him as a sub, since Kefka from the FF collab hit NA. The original 3 row enhancer is now dusty and rusty, sitting in the corner with a max skilled King Baddie and some Whisky dragons; passing a bottle around and reminiscing about their glory days...maybe he'll become evo material for another REM devil or archangel.
Last edited by Rubicari 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 )
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Domo 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
And welcome to awoken archdemon Lucifer material
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By EatYoBkfst 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
His weighted stats not including RCV is 911... Dat fire sub element too hot better call the fire department ;)
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By Freeze 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Terrible monster, look at the weighted, lowest in the game :O

Well, jokes aside, if we treated his RCV as 0, his weighted would be the highest in the game, at 911.
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By Demonwi 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Could his active be used at 1 hp?
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mccool37 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Yes. Just confirmed, probably because of the new addition to his skill of spawning dark orbs.
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By Maxtebow 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
To solve the recovery problem, you can just add a Amaterasu and use Shower of Healing to get back to max hp
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loarenc 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
W/D Ceres works better because she's a devil and then Satan's skill also applys to Ceres
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By SirOsis>>s 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
Meh, Satan...
Last edited by SirOsis>>s 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 )
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By Dragonborn 1 year ago ( 9.6.3 ) 
Those weighted stats... ??? Negative... *tilts head sideways*
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By nathan@N17 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Overall I'm pretty disappointed. 111 to attack and a 1.35× to HP is seriously underachieving. What a waste, not even a sub type. I could see a physical slapped on him because of his stats but i was hoping for attacker.........the only thing I like is the fire instead of water
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Anon 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Attacker or physical would've both been very nice, so I agree with you on that. Satan's uvo is pretty pricey, although not particularly problematic.

I suppose the main problem is that they buffed him relatively little for what one would expect if an uvo cost that much. Add that to the fact that they sometimes buff monsters relatively a lot without charging a high price for the uvo (Exhibit A: Grodin) and this makes the requirements almost unfair (although not quite.)
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By Sulli 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Already have the evo mats for him, can't wait for him to reach US. The evo mats aren't hard to get very easy. Right now I have 7 keeper of golds only one from PEM, and 7 devilits all from the dungeon.. I'm always evoing so I'll get more!!!
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By Albegas 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Give him at least another dark row GunHo, those evo mats are quite costly. -_-
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By -Striku- 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Finally, some use for my extra devilits...
But anyways, the hp boost is very helpful for a last stand team like satan! Even when the enemy thinks it can beat you, you can use Ceres to bring all that hp back
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Anon 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Actually you'll generally just want to kill them off before you get hurt that badly. If anything Ceres' skill will only help you buy a few more turns for more crucial actives (although they tend to charge faster anyway.)
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By Durendul 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
a hypothetical team of all satan all maxed has 83,718HP enough to make not healing viable, (have fun getting devilits)

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=1646.99.1.99.99.99.3..1646.99.1.99.99.99.3..1646.99.1.99.99.99.3..1646.99.1.99.99.99.3..1646.99.1.99.99.99.3..1646.99.1.99.99.99.3
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Yi Xuan in reply to Peterbob 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
you cant lose hp when you match heal orbs, you just recover nothing.
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Peterbob 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
but match 2 combos of hearts and u die.
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By MarkMyWord 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
This will be something wait til u guys c how many hits u can tank and added fire sub will definitely fit my satan team better getting my keeper tomorrow and 2 devilits friday and me n my satan will wait for the update n lol at u guys later..
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By Char@PF 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Hey look, another straight upgrade ult.
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By Stan 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
How big is he, considering that chaos devil dragons are only up to his knee
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By Watlok 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
That HP multiplier is truly insane. The hp for just having both Satan leaders at lvl 99 is over 24k. Full teams with +eggs will reach 50k hp with ease and top out at over 80k hp.
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By El Rayo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I found Satan's descend to be way easier than Athena given the lack of heart orbs and the potential for huge combos. Kirin was my first REM card so I know that a bit of luck was on my side. Kirin shreds this dungeon like tissue paper. With my Satan build I can easily run Goddess Descended, Athena, Zeus, Two Heroes, and Thief Descended. In addition, my Satan build wrecks the tri fruit dungeon and has a 50/50 rate on twinletts dungeon. Also, I can beat almost every special dungeon on any level with my Satan build. The ones that have conditions that prevent dupes or dark orbs are a no go.
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Dr. Psaroo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I'd call it nice for a farmable devil leader but it deserves some more stuff like a skill boost and a god or physical subtype.

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El Rayo in reply to nathan@N17 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
12.25x attack, 1.822x hp, 6 darks rows, and 13222 hp is not mediocre, and you can't convince me otherwise. Once again ppl are comparing Athena's damage as an individual and not discussing her impact on her entire team. Satan builds have always been risky. None of that risk has changed. If anything the HP boost provides a cushion. I am sorry that you're upset that Satan cannot take on harder descended dungeons. He is one of my fave cards and I'm not complaining about his updates. I am also in the mid 200 ranking so I'm familiar with the territory. And expect more for what they ask? Farming 4 devilettes is giving you trouble? Satan helped me catch Zeus, and funny enough Zeus is who I use to farm devilettes. If you're in the mid 200 ranking then you should honestly have no problem farming for devilettes unless you've blown all your stones on continues and didn't pull the REM during god fests. Gold Keepers are much harder but become easier once you get a great REM creature. I use my UVO Kirin or my Lu Bu/Ronia build to farm and I can zero stone it 3/4 of the time. An extra skill boost or bind resistance would be nice, but would that really make Satan builds strong enough to take on Zeus Vulcan or Hera Ur? It's bad enough the only delay devil teams have is batman (REM) and subbing echinda breaks the synergy. There is nothing Satan can do against a dungeon with large preemptive strikes or creatures with high defense and fertile guard (Lillith and Neptune poison obsolete), and I am ok with that. I just use other builds. And what good would the physical sub type do? The options are very limited for a devil or dark physical team. All I can think of is Arcane Vamp, Dark Mech Warrior, and that genie looking guy with delay. Anyway, just letting you know that I've enjoyed our debate lol. Im not trying to be a jerk. Thanks for a great discussion.
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nathan@N17 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
That's exactly what I'm talking about. All you named are the easiest of the bunch. Yeah sure the second evo is perfect because of power and availability for lower players but as somebody in the mid 200s, I definitely expect more out of what they ask. You didn't mention any of the hera's, no other zeus, etc. My point is that there is no reason he didn't get the same respect that athena got. Have you seen the numbers she puts out from just four orbs? It's insane. Definition of broken. I'm not saying he needed more rows or positive recovery but some sort of block or a couple of skill boosts seems very fair. Just like odin, did theyhhonestly need to buff him like that? Hell no. What about kirin, she was already beasty until they made her truly insane with her ultimate. Wanna talk about farmables, have you seen the hera-ur? Let me know how it goes when you try something past the first five descends. I bet you can't even come close to beating endless corridors. It's mediocre and you're happy about it? Whatever man. People don't make any sense on here and get so offended
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nathan@N17 in reply to El Rayo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
All I'll say is yeah that looks nice....of course you left out no chance of healing. And the fact that you NEED 6 orbs to do anything (while everybody knows clearing the board doesn't always provide that) so with no skill boosts and such high cooldowns besides vamp. Now all of a sudden you have to take a hit (oh I jave such high hp, I can take it) ....if you're able to tank many hits then obviously it's an easy descend...like you said, we're in the 200s and KoG kicks my @ss (but oddly enough I can do god rush) and I highly doubt they are worried about satan beating everything, especially for lower players...but how many can get 1KoG and 4 devilits....yeah sure pal but that's chancy. It's an ULTIMATE EVOLUTION so why can't it ultimate. Look at beezlebub, he can get way more HP, can still heal and since he can heal he can get better subs. Oh and you know, he's not rem. I get he's you're favorite but are you honestly satisfied that this is the end for him? (Ultimate evolution i mean) You expected more, I expected more but just because you jumped ship and decided to settle because that's what they handed you I'm now wrong? Of course people on here will hate what I say because I'm not glorifying satan, I get it this is his page. Just saying that obviously at one point you were saying the same thing. He DESERVED more
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By EmrysX@PF 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Dual satans + some TPA action is going to be NICE. Uevo Beelz, Gryps, Dark Zeus, etc. You'll have a team with close to 50k easy and the option of dealing dmg with rows or TPA.

Contrasting Athena teams, where you've got your two Athenas doing the bulk of the dmg with TPA, in a Satan TPA team, you've got Dark Zeus and Gryps doing most of the damage (and Haku, some with single TPA) when you're not doing row dmg. Include Lu Bu for that big spike.

Interchange Ronia, D/F Luci, or even Devil Ceres to shift to row dmg mode and even a complete heal, assuming you can stall long enough to use it.

Basically doubling a Satan team's HP mitigates the inability to heal, and you can make use of both TPA and rows. Fairly sure his new form will be able to tackle that much more.
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thanos 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Athena had goods subs with TPA. The light wizard is god/healer type with 2 tpa, Izanagi and Verche come with his own tpa and you have a full light tpa team, with good rcv, gods and you can pew pew anything with a TPA x10 (plus 35k health)

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By Krosis 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I'm disappointed too, but not for the reason everyone else is, haha

You would think that he would have gained God subtype, now no Charles Im not saying Satan is divine or anything but power-wise I'd rank him at around God level.

I mean just look at that artwork
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By Andrew 2.0 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Looks like I can make a new farm team for KOG with satan.

Beezelbub leader, satan, satan, rsonia, haku, friend satan

My base hp with no + eggs would be (29,061) x2 x 1.35 = 78,464 HP with 12 dark row enhance. 12 dark row enhance means 2.2x damage if I match a row. I am looking at an attack multiplier of 2.5 x 3.5 x 2.2 = 19.25x for matching a row. I'm pretty sure this is a no brainer farm team for KOG since I don't need to stall at all getting to zeus. Pretty sweet.
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By Frank 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I find the chaos devil dragons in the art kind of cute :3
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By Brandon 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
He is definitely worth the EVO materials! I pull these things daily and have them just sitting around.
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By aszma 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
If you compare him to athenas ult satan seems a bit lack luster plus even though its still a boost it doesnt change the number of decendeds you can do with satan and he still has all the problems he had before
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Albegas 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
What? you have basically twice as much HP, this allow you to do descends with preemptive strikes that otherwise would have kill you before, with this UVO running a very basic Satan team net you basically 20k more HP.

My team current Satan Team:
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=647.99.1.0.0.0.3..761.99.1.0.0.0.3..894.99.1.0.0.0.3..1269.99.1.0.0.0.7..688.50.1.0.0.0.2..647.99.1.0.0.0.3

Same team with Ulti Satan:
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=1646.99.1.0.0.0.3..761.99.1.0.0.0.3..894.99.1.0.0.0.3..1269.99.1.0.0.0.7..688.50.1.0.0.0.2..1646.99.1.0.0.0.3

People is underrating the HP boost way too much, Satan teams look for 3 things, Rows, Orb Changers and HP, nothing else matter.

High End Satan Team:
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=1646.99.1.0.0.0.3..1553.99.1.0.0.0.4..1648.99.1.0.0.0.3..1269.99.1.0.0.0.7..1240.99.1.0.0.0.4..1646.99.1.0.0.0.3
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aszma in reply to Albegas 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Yes I understand the HP boost is good thats not what i am saying i am comparing him to athena and how athena became incredibly good and was able to do way more descendeds afterwards such as wednesday and friday mythical, Athena, satan, thoht & sopdet, and many more which would be impossible before her ultimate. Also having a maxed satan IMO a good non REM satan team I have a good idea on what satan can and cannot do and even with the HP boost the amount of descendeds it can do is not increased because the HP boost alone doesn't fix things like Skill binds, temporary dark damage immunity, shields, and 600k defenses.
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Albegas in reply to aszma 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Skill binds are a problem for everyone, you need very specific subs to completely overcome this so is not a problem that only affect Satan.

Shields and Absorb are annoying, but you should be able to measure if you can or cant tackle those before hand, however with the boosted HP there are shields that you may be able to stall now (still a problem, specially dark absorb).

As for 600k def... you are running a Satan team, you should be bale to nuke that thing down, and if for some weird reason you cant you should be smart enough to take a monster that can bypass say def, like the new Darkseid who is the best option since he is a devil and have some very beefy weighted stats.
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By Walrus 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
I was hoping for a Subtype Physical, god or Dragon, that would have made up for a year full of bad REM rolls and very few skill-ups.
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By CJ 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
I'd just like to add, since most seem to have missed it, that with full +eggs on attack Satan's active skill hits for over 500k. Just saying.
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mccool37 in reply to Setzeromus 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Right, the issue is trying to get that to activate. GungHo is planning on bringing his minimum cool down to 20 but even then, at max skill you's need to plan through the dungeon well if you want to have that skill up by the boss. It's not impossible with the right subs (a few skill boosts or auto heals for stalling) but you have to account for accidental skydrops that kill a good stalling wave or issues with a short dungeon (Athena as an example which has only 4 floors) which would require serious planning.

Overall his skill seems akin to Anubis' leader skill, hard to use but extremely effective when you get to.
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Setzeromus 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
515,100 to be exact, and 1,030,200 on a light enemy.

Assuming, of course, zero defense. But, even still, that is a hell of a range of damage to lay into one enemy with an active that requires no more work than selecting "OK" to activate (as opposed to orb changing, etc.).
Last edited by Setzeromus 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 )
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By kai@HNL 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
hope they give us this soon. iv had 7 devilits sitting in my backpack with nothing to do, for longer than i care to remember.
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By foskia 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
515.000 damage. screw morning star
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By Albegas 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Any chance of getting this in 7.2.2?
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By Reaver 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
ITS OUT PEOPLE!
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By Tony 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Will there be another UEVO on top of satan or should you GungHo decide to make fusing god like cards with other godlike cards to make an UEVO of this King of Hell, Satan? Like Fuse two King of Hell, Satan cards into ULTIMATE King of Hell, Satan. It's not original, but I say this would be a thing if they wanted to buff satan to another level.
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dime in reply to Albegas 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
yeah, i mean if you do double D/R satan leads you're getting about 17.5k hp from just two cards alone which is rather insane if you ask me, but i would've liked to see him get at least just 1 awakening like a blind resist or a 20% orb enhanced something along the lines of that. i guess i better start farming the Friday dungeon because i need some devilits now and wouldn't mind if i got angelits instead so i could evo yomi and some others.
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Albegas 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
GunHo can't buff him too much, that's why they give him the HP buff (which is way better than what it seams on paper), he is a farmable unconditional 3.5 lead, if you make him too good he becomes better than REM rolls, and then there would be no point to roll.
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By Albegas 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Man he is so good, that seemingly negligible hp buff make a heck of a difference.
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By K¡ngSwi$ha 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Party of the mighty gods series, not god type. Supersippinstoked to beat his descent/accent so my Dmeta team would never hafta deal w that rvc bull again. Now thou shall sit on thy shelf till kingdom come. Amen.
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By Freddy 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
After playing the game for a year and a half, I still don't understand his use. I'm not knocking him, I'm just saying that I don't know exactly what he's good for besides farming(which still would require a bunch of friends with him too). Can anyone help me with this lol?
Last edited by Freddy 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 )
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Tito /JET 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Yea, if you use him in challenge mode, he's a good farming leader.
I saw on the PAD forums that if you use Satan (Not UVO'd), another Satan (also, no UVO), Wicked Lady, D/B Vampire, Chaos Devil Dragon with a Lu Bu SubLeader that this is the most powerful farmable team that you can make and it doesn't even require high tier EvoMats.
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sc0rch3d in reply to Tito /JET 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
This is the team I'm currently after and have the vamp and CDD. One dungeon below where wicked lady drops.

Not ready for hard descends so I continue to bolster my ronia and goemon teams. Rank 190 and haven't beaten KOTG yet since I can only due 3.5mil on spike to Zeus.

That team is powerful BC of double spike plus orb changers plus ATK multiplier.
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By OrneryRa 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Pair with Lu Bu for 1.8/10.5/0
Pair with Ult Satan for 1.8/12.3/0
Pair with Ult Beelz for 2.7/8.8/0.

Easily get above 45k health with the above setups. Ultimate Beelzebub is even more ridiculous (easily over 60k). Stick some solid devils (orb changers/multipliers) in your lineup and you are golden.

These setups are my favorite way to take care of any No-RCV dungeons.
Last edited by OrneryRa 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 )
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By Mtw FTW 3 years ago ( 7.5 ) 
I wanna see what happens when you use quick cure when this guy is on your team
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Firecat 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Uh you heal for the quick cure amount...

Quick Cure heals the RCV of the card, not the team.
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By Walrus 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
I am waiting for Awoken Satan.
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By nturtle 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
The guy has 4 arms, give him a TPA at least (and a fire row.) Geeze, stingy on the awakings for this guy.
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Windurst 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
He doesn't pop out of the REM so they just gave him dollar store buffs.
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By Paradragon 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
People are getting triple typings and this guy still only has devil type. Like at least give him god type, as he is a divine figure, and I'm REALLY hoping for an attacker type
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Nen 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
In many mythologies demons/devils are divine figures but that doesn't instantly make them "gods".
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By Happydude 2 years ago ( 9.0.3 ) 
With the addition of killer awakenings, it would only be fitting to give Satan a god killer
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By Mr-ex777 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
KIng of hell? Forget about it, you are being fed to Lucifer to be awoken along with Zeus.
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ngmatt 1 year ago ( 9.5.1 ) 
we all know who the REAL king of hell is *cough* reincarnated Anubis *cough*
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By drew9348 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
That HP is high, why not physical type?
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By V-GUARD 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
So, I need to find the four Devilits to U.Evo this guy, and NOT ONCE have I acquired Devilits from the PEM, and farming options are limited or straight up above my league.

Recommendation/Advice Pls?
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By XXv9 1 year ago ( 9.6.3 ) 
Reincarnated Satan
Type: Devil
Element: Dark/Dark
Rarity: 9 Stars
Cost: 80
Art: Young Male strongly resembling Satan from the Devil as a Part Timer anime.

(Same Active Skill)

Leader Skill: Maou-sama Returns!
66% Light and Dark damage reduction. Devil type cards HP x1.35, ATK x3.5, RCV x(-1).

God Killer
God Killer
God Killer
Bind Resist
Bind Resist
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By Radibub 1 year ago ( 11.1.1 ) 
Anyone who can put two of these guys on their team and still have positive RCV is the real pro
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By CocoPoison 8 months ago ( 12.0.3 ) 
OK, so since hera, athena and zeus have their "trimask" evolutions, will satan get one now? He's the only other card in this pantheon
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By jigun 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
They're definitely going to add more awakenings later like they did to hera...pretty insanely ridiculous they didn't give him more awaawakenings Like wtf.. for those evo materials come on!! I swear their reasoning is like welllll those Dungeons are up every week right guyss so very easyyyyy to get; D... screw you...
Last edited by jigun 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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By aszma 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
The real problem is that Satan was great before but because of its RCV it was situational you couldn't do a lot of decendeds with him and with the evo we were hoping for a buff that would allow us to use him in more decendeds but ultamitly hes just going to stay the same as a guy we use on like 3 decendeds
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Anon in reply to El Rayo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I seriously hate to break it to you but Satan is still not on the level of Athena despite this uvo. I like to use him myself, but while Athena can beat the harder dungeons, Satan cannot.

Let me put it this way. Satan needs 6 orbs to deal a lot of damage. Athena needs 4. Simple logic dictates that this already makes Athena better, although don't forget that she also gets other awakenings too. Combine this with the fact that they decided to give her double-two prong despite her already high attack and it makes Satan look like a piece of crap (not literally of course, his uvo looks pretty cool.)

I can sort of see some usefulness for Satan still, and I wish I could use him more. HOWEVER, I will not deny that his uvo is probably not worth it since the actual buffs you get are very minor. 1.35x HP can buy you a few more turns, and fire sub-attribute makes him able to better synergize with more "modern" devils, but no additional awakenings? No subtype? Only 100 extra attack? I think I'll just stick to Athena (once I get that darn Angelit to drop.)
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El Rayo in reply to Anon 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Hi PTJ. Glad you could join our discussion. As you can see I am very passionate about Satan lol. He's one of my top fav cards in the game. I should start by saying that your analysis is kinda irrelevant because the discussion is about Satan and Athena's descended dungeons, and which one is easier to farm, not which card is better. I also find it interesting that you are comparing Athena and Satan as individuals, and not for the ways they impact their team. I cannot dispute that Athena does more damage with 4 orbs. I would expect her to given her Attacker sub type, high attack stats, and her 2 TPA awokens. However, she gives her team 9x attack and ~1.56x hp boosts, while Satan gives his team 12.25x attack, 1.82x hp, and an extra 60% damage for rows (talkin two Satan leaders and 2 Athena leaders). So while Athena alone does more damage than Satan, the king gives tremendous attack and hp boost to his entire team. And for a successful Athena build to tackle descended dungeons you almost always need Izanagi or Genbu on your team unless you’ve constructed a powerful build without the two. Satan in his UVO is mediocre? A piece of crap (lol)? You guys have very high standards for non REM creatures. I don’t see how 12.25x attack, 1.822x hp, 6 dark rows, and 13,332 hp with two Satans ALONE is mediocre.
Last edited by El Rayo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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El Rayo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Well I don't know what your Satan build looks like or how you play, but you should be destroying many descended dungeons easily with Satan. They will never make him strong enough to beat all descended dungeons because he isn't from the REM. And his RCV is not situational. It's a burst team. Go hard or go home.
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Anon in reply to El Rayo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
If you want to talk about dungeon difficulty both are quite easy despite being Mythicals. Each can beat the other's descend rather easily so that's not going to be a good way to determine who is better.

Not trying to be sexist here but Satan "hits like a girl" (ironic actually since Athena certainly doesn't lol.) However, both are easily taken out with the old tactic of "menace and spam combos", and don't even get me started on how easily the newer spike leaders turn them into Swiss cheese.

I'll give Satan one point for the following: he's usable pre-uvo. In her "final" evolution form not counting ultimate evolution, Athena is an extremely mediocre monster that won't be getting you anywhere as a leader. However, Satan has proven himself to be much more powerful if one is comparing their pre-uvo forms; he was capable of defeating Athena even before awoken skills (ie. before he had that key advantage of his: row enhance.) I suppose both are roughly the same in terms of tanking capability though (ie. not very good.) Satan has far more health but has no way of healing back, and autoheal won't cut it. Athena has zero RCV (which makes her effectively the same) and her ideal teams are unlikely to be able to compensate for that.

Overall I can now sort of see the two being on a somewhat even standing (although once again, Athena is better.) This shouldn't be surprising however, seeing how both were released around the same time as each other (at least in JP version.)
Last edited by Anon 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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El Rayo in reply to nathan@N17 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I found Satan's descend to be way easier than Athena given the lack of heart orbs and the potential for huge combos. Kirin was my first REM card so I know that a bit of luck was on my side. Kirin shreds this dungeon like tissue paper. With my Satan build I can easily run Goddess Descended, Athena, Zeus, Two Heroes, and Thief Descended. In addition, my Satan build wrecks the tri fruit dungeon and has a 50/50 rate on twinletts dungeon. Also, I can beat almost every special dungeon on any level with my Satan build. The ones that have conditions that prevent dupes or dark orbs are a no go.
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nathan@N17 in reply to El Rayo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Really because athena is definitely easier to farm than satan and there are few she can't do, if any. So that's not a good excuse. What descends can you beat with satan? Reliably of course
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By Greg! 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
His RCV should've gone higher. Probably -2000 or something...?
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Dr. Psaroo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
-6666.
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Albegas 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
That would have been pointless and would make people realize that Stana's weighted stats are off the chars if you consider the RCV 0 instead of -9999.
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Chinny in reply to Albegas 2 years ago ( 9.0.3 ) 
funnily enough, if you consider his rcv 0, then his weighted stats would be 911.
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By Xinfo 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
lol google translate says: Genie King Satan in hell. I don't read Japanese but I'm 99% sure that most of that is incorrect
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Vermillion 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
That's a mistranslation of "devil" and the funny thing is, after I checked, The pre evo name doesn't really have any word that translated into "underworld" but more like evil/disaster or something but this ult have the word "Jigoku" which means "hell" so this one should actually be named Satan, King of the Underworld instead but they already used it so maybe they will just change it to Hell this time?
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By Low 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Wow....this is stupid. A 35% HP boost and the going price is a KoG and 4 devilits? Nothing else changes. Awesome artwork but that is just a pathetic evolution. No new awoken skills, or subtype.....just wow..
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Low 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Blue to red could be useful somehow, but still.
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By nturtle 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
No extra sub type or new awakinings for a 70 cost monster with negative RCV that costs 4 devlits? Gungho, you must be trolling.
Last edited by nturtle 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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By Guest 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Lame monster
Try hard stat pun
Garbage skill
Why farm him when We all save stones for godfest
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By leafdrop 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I have a full awoken, max level ulti satan, looking for ultimate sate as well, 321,149,308
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By Buttmunchr 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
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PadNut@/r 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Just a reminder; Don't feed the trolls folks.

It should also be noted that they also haven't put Muhammad or Buddha in the game either. They're either respecting all the religions or they might be planning to release them later. The Japanese are largely Atheists/Agnostics. They don't believe in Santa Claus either. It wouldn't surprise me if Jesus does indeed make it into the game. Hopefully they'll do another Gender-Bender like they did with Noah. I think it will be awesome.
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Stan in reply to PadNut@/r 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
well amitaka. hes kinda the buddha...
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Anon in reply to PadNut@/r 3 years ago ( 7.5 ) 
"How to genderbend Jesus"
1) Shave off his beard.
2) Go back to step 1.
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