No.1644
神罰の審理者・メタトロン
 God / Attacker
8 ★
MP 50000 Cost 70
 LvHPATKRCVWeightSellExp
1134685513335012002925
9935301931333850118800289575
 *1 Experience gain bonus from same element
 *2 Weighted Stat: HP / 10 + ATK / 5 + RCV / 3
Enhance Dark orbs. +6% per orb, up to +180% for full board. 35% damage reduction for 1 turn.
CD: 10 Turns ( 5 Turns at Lv.6 )
This card can be used as assist.
Dark attribute cards HP x1.5, ATK x1.5. All attribute cards ATK x4 when HP is less than 50%. ATK x3 when HP is less than 80%.
Skill Up Cards
Assist Bonus Stat
HP +353 ATK +97 RCV +50 ( Max Lv )
HP +452 ATK +121 RCV +95 ( Max Lv & +297 )
Applicable Killer Latents
Awoken Skills
Evolution
Lv50
Ultimate Evolution
Reverse Ultimate Evolution by using
Grayed out Japanese cards
God Fest. Exclusive God Series
Drop Locations for #1644
This card can be obtained by:
- Evolution from Hand of the Dark God, Metatron
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By Dylan 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Hey look, you can use god subs with her. Now I don't have to sell my car for REM money.
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DLish 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Upcoming buff removes ALL type and color requirements for subs. Soon you can use anything with her. Buff also reduces active skill timer, adds static attack buff along with the HP buff, and adds atk bonus scaling up to 4x with lower health granting more atk. She is getting some major love.
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Derek71 in reply to Sanspai@PF 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
"Amazingly broken" is right! However, as she has been my main lead for the last 150 levels, I prefer to think of her as "suddenly a lot more fun." I am now prone to fits of gleeful laughter as I dig through my monster box to find out what else I can throw into her team.
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Sanspai@PF in reply to DLish 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Way too much love Imo, she passed to being a whale leader to being something amazingly broken...
Last edited by Sanspai@PF 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 )
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By CJ 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Did Gungho just decide to make one of the most OP monsters even more OP? D.Meta was already pretty versatile, now the versatility kind of skyrocketed.

Active Skill is a very nice boost. Most didn't care about the light orb enhance anyway, and that 35% resist means it's that much easier to meet the HP requirement to tank a hit in whichever dungeon you're running.

Leader skill is... Wow. Just wow. She was incredible just being in the range of attackers (attackers are pretty versatile, they have HP tanks and healer/attackers now) but now we're adding god type to the mix?

For awakenings she received 2 extra skill boosts on top of the skill boost she already has...

Her boobs got bigger and she removed more clothes...

I really hope I roll her in the next godfest.
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Char@PF 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
She only received 1 extra Skill Boost, she had her first 6 awokens pre-ult
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Tony 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
dude, I just realized she had another skill boost. now, there's another god with 3 skill boosts! definitely this card is a must have.
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TOFU@KYHAY in reply to Dr. Psaroo 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
no one gets your pun....
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Savannah 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
All of the best gods are getting ultimate evos that make them even better, Grodin, ronia, ama. They all just keep getting better, what about the other gods? Blue Odin needs something good
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Rabbit 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
That feeling when you read this comment in 2016
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Daniel9dsi in reply to TOFU@KYHAY 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
I get his pun...it's not his fault his joke is too complex for some people to comprehend
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Dr. Psaroo 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
They wanted to widen D. Meta for using her.

(Pun very intended)
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WillMa 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Lubu sub oh yeaaa
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By -Striku- 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
That book she's writing...
It's the Death Note...
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By amarin0729 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Plague of Hearing Persons Metatron?

Google translate y u trolling
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By (´v ` ) 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Reading and laughing at all these 1 year old comments saying that she's overpowered.

THEN:
4 x 4 = 16x for Gods and Attackers when under 80% HP.

NOW:
3 x 3 = 9x for everyone when under 80% HP.
4 x 4 = 16x for everyone when under 50% HP.
which seems worse until you remember that you'll only go in with dark pokemon, which means 1.35x from both leaders which gives us
3 x 3 x 1.35 x 1.35 = 16x for all dark pokemon when under 80% HP.
4 x 4 x 1.35 x 1.35 = 29x for all dark pokemon when under 50% HP.

29x maximum multiplier.

You've come a long way, baby.
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(´v ` ) in reply to Cheefoo 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Whatever makes your grass smell green.
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Cheefoo 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Pokemon?

They're called Puzzlemon you dip.
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Echo12 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
I kind of wish she had an awoken though.
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Bestcat! in reply to Cheefoo 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
Love this Chocolate beauty!
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By Inagaki 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
I LOVE LOVE LOVE FARMING KOG in less than 2 MINUTES 8D !
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RiaShion in reply to buttz 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
I may be repeating what others have mentioned, but here is my KoG setup:

1) D.Meta +297*
2) D/D Haku
3) Hanzo
4) Persephone
5) D/D Haku** (Uvo D.Valk / Pandora / Ronia)
6) D.Meta friend (usually high +)

* (My D.Meta is the only +297 on my D.Meta team for now. It goes without saying that higher levels & +'s allow for more flexibility and mindless lazy play)

** (I use a second D/D Haku for KoG purely for her decent stats, but more importantly, her lower RCV compared to D.Valk and Pandora. This is to minimize healing over the 80% threshold from accidental heals. The second Haku's active isn't even used in my KoG runs most of the time. This slot is a filler and I use it purely for utility. Even for Ronia, who does not benefit from D.Meta's multiplier, you can still set up a lazy full enhanced dark board overkill burst on Zeus e.g. Ronia + Hanzo + D.Meta)

- Floors 1-7: Clear unwanted orbs and get below 80%. Match three dark orbs every floor

- Floor 8: Make 1 dark row. Use Haku or Persephone as you see fit (save at least one Haku active for Zeus)

- Floor 9: Make rows and combos. Use Haku or Persephone as you see fit (again, as long as one Haku is ready by floor 10)

- Floor 10: Activate Haku --> Hanzo --> D.Meta --> Burst down with rows and combos

*** If you're above the 80% HP threshold on floors 9 or 10, do your best to heal up as much as you can, and activate D.Meta to tank CDD or Zeus' attack
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buttz 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
post the build, dude
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buttz 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
oh, i thought kog was keeper of gold. now i'm sad.
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MooSama xD in reply to buttz 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
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Last edited by MooSama xD 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 )
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EigenValue in reply to buttz 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Ria's team would still easily be able to do keeper of gold.
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Caysie in reply to RiaShion 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
Thank you, I will be using this as soon as I'm able to evo everything and rank them up properly! I currently have DMeta, 2x Haku, and Persephone, but I don't have Hanzo. Maybe I can use Tsukoyomi as the other sub?

On another note, please gib me a Jewel of Water Gungho ;~;
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By Greg! 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
This is super broken. Adding God-types to her Leader Skill is just too OP. Can anyone please tell show me a flaw of hers?

I'm not being sarcastic or anything. I really just think she's too OP now with her exaggerated LS.
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Bryan@PF/r 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
One flaw: She isn't in US right now XD
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Sangu in reply to plant 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
DQXQ requires 4 color matches, which severely limits damage potential as a leader, DMeta on the other hand can lead a full team of dark monsters and do a full board of dark, or 3 rows, or 4 two prongs, or use Haku's active for massive dark combos. DQXQ is incredible, don't get me wrong, but her burst potential is nothing compared to DMeta's.
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Tony in reply to Bryan@PF/r 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
You right!
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Red 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I agree. It completely changes "everything". A
separate 3x conditioned for gods would have seemed balanced to me. To just open the flood gates to Metas subs is crazy. Good for those that have her. Wish I did. I have all the mats lol
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roonbloke 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Yes, she's very good. But she's pretty comparable to, say, ZGL, who has an even wider range of usable subs.

And as to a flaw, any team with a low-HP threshhold type skill is going to run into trouble on a lot of different dungeons. Big preemptive attacks or heals are both pretty hard to manage. That's why the hero gods and DQXQ are so good. Their leader skill works all the time, no matter what. (provided that your team is max skilled.)
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Echo12 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Her flaw is her HP. She doesn't actually have much of an HP boost. Just using 100 as an example, if you're dark you get 150 HP, but to be at full potential for attack you have to be 75 HP. It's better with 2 metatrons cause the HP will be 225 but real HP with be 112.5. She's a glass cannon. Only higher level players will be able to utilize her effectively and even then if she goes up against anything she can't one shot the low HP means it's game over. A typical DMeta team will probably have around 44-52k HP which means effective HP is around 22-26k. Something close to a Kirin or ADQXQ. She can power through most things but she's very susceptible to resolve dungeon.
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deathkingg 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Flaw: big one... you have to spend major $$ for gods and attackers she is heavy IAP still either way but the potential they have her is unbelievable
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plant 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Her Leader Skill is no better than DQXQ's. Worse I think, because DQXQ works on anything, and the orb match condition is easier and more versatile than HP requirement (maybe you wanted your hp!! :P)
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By AliHotFire 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Oh
my
God
dmeta is now broken AF
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secret 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I didn't think it would be possible for a leader to become easier to use than Ronia.
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Steve@PG in reply to Side_ 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Are you seriously comparing Athena with this monster?
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Side_ 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
GG, its pretty much as OP as Athena now... with more access of wider variety of row boosts in stead of two prongs
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By Char@PF 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I can easily get everything needed for this new ult... Except DMeta. :\
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By nturtle 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Reminds me of Fran from Final Fantasy 12
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Nageku 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Why you do this to my brain D:
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By Buttdwarf 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Durga is a prime sub, with the god atk boost active skill and hp reduction putting it in range of D.metas LSkill.
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By Tony 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Yes, I was hoping for an active skill like this. Great as lead and sub. I'd sub her in my pandora team. Also great for Horus if you need to go a rainbow attacker team and need damage reduction.
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By Clefspeare 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I went through the gift of the holy beasts dungeon to try to find a water jewel. I couldn't find one so I just figured that I would get a dark one in case dmeta needed one for her ult evo. Got a dark one and, now, it turns out that it requires a blue one.......
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Clefspeare in reply to jaaj711 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
I just pulled one from the pal egg. WOW.
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jaaj711 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I did the same thing :-(
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nathan@N17 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
It was pretty obvious they were gonna go devilit and blue jewel (I wasn't expecting blue mask but those are easy).....but gungho has made some pretty odd choices so I get your struggle
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By willsrocke 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Before was good to use enhancement dark & light, now only dark enhancement and 35% reduction for 1 turn.
Cool down of skill to min-max 7-10 and Awoken is very good, better.
I's complicate create team with her leader, i prefer to use her like sub for Pandora team with those cool down and awoken skills will be amazing...
Last edited by willsrocke 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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By bura 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
Best waifu.
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By CoffeeHo 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I realize that spelling "judgement" with that additional"e" is acceptable, but it still takes me a minute to get used to it not being a mistake. I find myself correcting the spelling to the american way of spelling: judgment. Lots of cultures--lots of adjustments.
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By K¡ngSwi$ha 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
A team full of Gravity Gods now does 16x...
"ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED???"
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By K¡ngSwi$ha 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
"Judge of Judgement" lol smh -_-
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By JD@PG 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
DTron vs Storm who will win?
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Jordan 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
Storm would zap her. Dmeta would be close to dead and kill her.
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By spoonMan 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Am I going to want to feed her +RCV eggs because of her leader skill?
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Jolo 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
If you want to take on the hardest dungeons, you'll see most people with max plus eggs because you'll need to heal up to take preemptive hits. Higher recovery will make it easier to do so.
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RiaShion 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
It's a tough decision, because it is very situational at times. Normally, a reduced RCV is preferred, but there will also be times when a bit of stalling is necessary (i.e. some dungeons with a few turns of dark absorb). In the end, it really comes down to your comfort and play style.
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legion 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
I wouldn't if you use it as lead card. My GZL has 0 RCV +
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By Fallen 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
Wow. Now D. Meta can even tank the heaviest preemptive attack from Divine Hera Queen. Good job GungHo!
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By Greg! 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
They just keep buffing this card! Not that I'm complaining, though. On the contrary, and opposing almost everyone, I actually think she deserves it (same goes with LZL).

GungHo is just trying to keep the outdated, previously top-notch, top-tier, "overpowered" (mind the quotation marks) gods and, most especially, Special gods relevant to the current trends.

Keep in mind that there are new top-tier leaders such as D/F Batman, Gon Freecss, and Mikasa. These are Collab Gold Eggs that outclass many Special Gods in almost all ways. There's Typhon, Zuoh, Ilm etc. who all are 6x ATK Multiplier leaders that are very deadly in the right hands. There are also many Awoken Evolutions that have been coming out. These Awokens bring a whole new level of gameplay to PAD.

Also keep in mind that there are many new dungeons with whole new levels of difficulties! Old strategies won't work on these ones anymore, hence, new units with more powerful Leader Skills.

With all these mentioned put together, D.Meta and LZL are now considered old and outdated. They lost their top-notch, top-tier, "overpowered" status to the newer and more relevant cards today. This doesn't do them justice, as they're STILL supposed to be in the top! That's how GungHo designed them to be in the first place! They were meant to be powerful leaders. They can't simply be outshone and shoved away by new units simply 'cause they're old. They have to be relevant to today's PAD because that's their role!

With these newly added buffs (and more to come, so I've heard), I believe GungHo going in the right direction with how to treat these outdated cards. D.Meta is now a slightly better leader than D/F Batman, just the way it's supposed to be. Not saying she's 100% better as a Leader, though. It just puts those two up to par with each other.

Either way, I hope some people get my point. And I hope that people who feel the same way about it add more to the conversation to back me up! I'm freaking stoked for this!
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Greg! 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
With this new buff that now affects ALL types of cards, with the exclusivity of Dark cards getting that HP buff, the possibilities are almost endless. You can even afford to build a TPA-based team because of this! Here's how my team is looking so far:

D.Meta
Awoken Haku
Satsuki
D/F Batman or D/B Okuninushi (more delay? or burst for boss?)
Summer Pandora or D/G Persephone (Skill-Lock Resist? or more Dark Orbs?)

or

D.Meta
Zaerogoo
Zaerogoo
Awoken Haku
Satsuki or D/F Batman (offense or defense)
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Daniel9dsi in reply to Greg! 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
The problem that I have with Gung-ho buffing Dmeta is the fact that they keep buffing cards that were already good while neglecting cards that actually need buffs, like Gronia and Apoc. What I'm scared of is the possibility that Gung-ho has pushed aside some of the mediocre cards and is just focusing on making strong cards even stronger.
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Derek71 in reply to Greg! 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
The new possibilities really are insane. Just ran Fist of the North Star with this team:

D Meta
D Valk
Gronia
Blonia
Chibi Ronia
D Meta

HP ~ 40,000. Had to tank a few hits to get below 20K.
On final round, Blonia + D Meta actives --> Two rows dark and blue each, plus change and a few skyfalls (including one dark, I think) and I watched my friend DMeta hit for 3.4 million.

This team still could have been run before, but the Sonias would not have gained the multiplier. Now they do.

Yep, I like how they broke this one.
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By Nemesis 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Her ultimate art is a lot prettier than her evolved art! I like it. Between that and her increased subs, I wouldn't mind rolling Dark Metatron someday. c:
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By Guest 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
suddenly all of us green zhuge users demand an ult. :(
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By nturtle 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
This is a noob question, but how do I keep my HP below 80%? Every turn I clear hearts heals me most/all the way and I cannot figure out how to make consistent use of her. This is why I never use HP% cards. What's the secret technique?
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RiaShion 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Part of it is in heart orb placements. You may want to re-position heart orbs to the lower corners and/or ways so that skyfalls wont troll you. There will always be times when 3+ heart orbs fall perfectly aligned and troll you anyways, but at least you can minimize it by better orb placements. Heart breakers assist in this, as well.

Also, depending on the dungeon, you may need to be more calculative on tanking hits. Some may one shot you if you don't activate D.Meta's active, so activating it will help you survive and put you in a position to use your multiplier. It's a numbers game, so if you look ahead at the floor mobs and their damage, you can use it to your advantage (i.e. falling below 80% on floor 1 & sweeping the floor, but matching heart orbs in the same combo so your [now 100% HP] can tank a preemptive on the next floor that would otherwise kill you).
Last edited by RiaShion 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 )
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milkyway 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Dark Valk or vamp on your team to turn heal orbs to dark can be very useful. DValk has a dark row and 2 TPAs to help your team as well. this is what you may want to use in smaller dungeons, but in bigger dungeons you might actually want a heart creater to heal up for the next hit you are going to take since you might get a lot of preemptives or might not be able to one shot everything.
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By Inagaki 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I am just so glad to have her !
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By Clefspeare 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
What do you guys think the best subs for her would be, now that she can use gods, too?
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Char@PF 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
D/D Haku is definitely a good sub. Not only does she (Haku) have 2 Dark rows, but use her active and then Hanzo's and you've got yourself a board that will usually kill a boss if rows are made.
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By bombypup 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Just when i sold my cars for REM, and after i got my Rider and Hanzo too
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By K¡ngSwi$ha 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
Aw yiss. DMetas now a little easier to keep under 80% an a little more broken. <Edit> well, the chibi is broken.... <EditEdit> K DMeta is broken and now, but soon she'll have a completely different leader skill that varies w HP? Whuh?
Last edited by K¡ngSwi$ha 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 )
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By rsong@PG 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
Hey guys is dmeta still one of the top leaders in the game? I looked at the JP tier list, and she's nowhere to be found. It kinda blows that one of the rarest gods in the game isn't a top tier leader anymore.
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Konrar 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
This surprised me too at first, but it makes sense. There are a few reasons Dmeta did not show up. First, within the context of the new Uevos, Dmeta's boost even with row enhance is not as exceptional as it was last year (though still fantastic).

Second, part of many ranking systems is sub pool. While Dmeta's subpool certainly grew with her Uevo, it remains fairly small relative to other like Bastet.

Third, Dmeta's hp requirement is less viable with the appearance of new dungeon gimmicks that require more team tweaking (and playtime and stones and rem pulls). What are your thoughts?
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Jolo 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
She was recently placed to A tier I believe and the next rework may push her to A+ tier.
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By K¡ngSwi$ha 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
DMeta +297, A. Loki +184, D/D Haku, Chaotic LuBu +297, Akechi Mitsuhide, DMeta +297

41,800+ HP w/ 35% damage resistance can tank multi-hits up to 56,400
100% skill bind resistant
11 skill boosts
12 RE
220% x 29.16 --> 64.152x w LuBu down to 1 HP
w/ A. Loki's 2x --> 128.3x + 6% OE (6 orbs) = 174.49x multiplier per row

"You have been found guilty by a jury of your peers. The sentence is death"

Other subs: Diadem (2 rows), Psychopomp Grisar (2 rows), Ronia (1 row, but multi row active)
Last edited by K¡ngSwi$ha 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 )
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K¡ngSwi$ha in reply to Angeldusts 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Yea 3 dark rows would take a skyfall row, I get it, I was just having fun. But I sling 2 rows off Haku ALL. DAY. LONG. SON. With every card dealing anywhere from 5-7 Mill. I punch close to 50 Mill with a good combo and everything dies. This is my team, I hand out dirt naps son
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Angeldusts 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
It is so strange that ppl made imaginary team and analyzed it seriously. With a single Haku, ppl think about 3 rows and 100m damage LMAO. Also do you other imaginary strategy for floors before the last boss. You knew that it is not izanami so you cannot be shielded all the time right? Also an imaginary strategy for situation when you get less than 6 dark orbs from Haku?
Last edited by Angeldusts 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 )
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By Seika 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Enjoy your 28.62c non-color-conditional spike lead! All you have to do is keep your HP below 50%, which should be easy to manage even with the threat of pre-emptives considering you'll have 1.82x your team's HP!!

And hey, even if you can't stay below 50%, staying below 80% still nets you 16.92x ATK, which will kill just about anything after that 5-turn CD orb enhance.

Makes me wanna +297 my Dmeta.. The power creep balancing is real.
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By Cygnus428 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
With her new update, her max multiplier with dual dmeta leads is 29.16, as opposed to 16. Her multiplier is still better because of the static boost to attack, when hp equals 51%-79%, her multiplier is just over 16%. So, her and durga are REALLY bffs now, putting her at a 58.32x multiplier instead of 32.
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Skeptic in reply to Nen 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Noooo... Never use satan in dmeta team. There are a lot of times where you actually need to heal up later in the game. You don't even need the extra hp from satan with that hp multiplier. Satans active is pretty useless as well. You can get away with using a sub with 2 rows instead with a better active and better awakenings.

Awoken Loki can work, but you have NO use for his active most of the time since you can easily hit 5-10m without a dmg buff. And with the added SBR on Dmeta, Loki's 2 sbr is pretty worthless when considering DMeta's other subs.

You are much better off with Durga for the on demand suicide. However just note that any damage buff is overkill on Dmeta in most cases.
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Nen 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Eh, Durga will be packing up and leaving once A.Loki comes to town though.

As for the lowering your HP part I was thinking Satan might actually be useful for her especially since Meta's HP buff. Void heals, 3 dark rows and an insane amount of HP to top it off.
Last edited by Nen 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 )
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Cygnus428 in reply to Skeptic 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
Two years since her ult came out, and i still find that shes easily one of the most potent leaders.

Durga beats awoken loki due to the on-demand suicide, but it also helps that 8-10 million damage in one card (not the whole team, just metatron) can crack every defense in the game i think. when your team hp drops below that 50%, three dark orbs kill any non-boss monster without combos. I have a ton of teams available, from kali to awoken bastet, and dark metatron is still my go-to on any dungeon without a bunch of 1-shot kills.
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By NWell 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Like if you agree that this monster is the best card in PAD!!
Please REM, I want this monster.
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Vic 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I'm going to get this monster hehehehhahahhaha *evil laughter*
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By marg 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Rolled twice in the fist of the north star rem and twice during godfest, got ken (+a trash monster) and dmeta+gryps rider. Cool:-B
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€ rial 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
That's 3/4 gold eggs. One from a collab REM. Very good luck indeed.
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By 「ҡμяεї」-ρԍ 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Amazing art <3
Also, those 3 skill boosts are op as heck
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By Krosis 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Imminent flood of Dark Metatron R34.

Oh God.
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Greg! 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Lol I thought you were translating her name. "God of Imminent Flood of R34, Dark Metatron"
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By Bé Táo@PV 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
i have 2 d.metatron , Can another of her be a good sub ?
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MooSama xD 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
If you didn't have another sub then yea, she'll be another good sub due to the 2 rows primarily. If you have another sub that gives 2 rows with a good active skill that she needs, then use that instead. Such an example would be a dark orb changer or some kind or a multiplier.
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By iiiiiiliii 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Now you can start puzzle and dragons with D meta. However, The hanzo still take huge part of D meta teams. If you gonna use her as starter god, I recommend you roll until you get both d meta and hanzo.
Last edited by iiiiiiliii 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 )
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By eKon0my 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
So, if you use a God/Attacker sub, does it get 8x?
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Gilan 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
No, I think it gets 16x.
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By Tommy 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
My Dmeta has yet to show the hp boost in her leader skill, anybody know when that is going into effect?
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By ciski77 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
This is awesome in every way, but it sorta compromises the usefulness of Gryps Rider, which is arguably her best sub. Would it make sense to keep him and disregard the lower synergy levels, or would a water card (or two Hanzos) make more sense?
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angel 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Gryps isn't her best sub. Hanzo is, but gryps still good
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moekou@PF in reply to angel 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Yeah, Gryphs now has superior God alternatives like Persephone, but he's still good, especially now that he finally has skillups!
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By purin 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
omfg i literally just rolled a devilit from PEM and now i have everything i need for her uevo i'm so happy ;________; she looks soo good
Last edited by purin 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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By thanos 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
She was designed to make you burn money to get her, and now she can clear every dungeon know to man. Well, I got her pink sister and waiting for that delicious Hp boost on her :3
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nagato 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Right I got her beautiful pink sister too I want her hp boost but I wouldnt mind rolling her in a rem either
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By Ryan B 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I was hoping her sub would be fire
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By _(:3 J<)_ 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
This will be the highest rated monster in this site.She has gone from op to broken tier.
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Taranis 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Hathor is rated at 9.9
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By Catalyst 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Welcome to the team Haku n Loki!!
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By Grayser 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
IS she available in na?
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nathan@N17 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Yeah they literally just released it so give it a try. Remember to click your heels three times also
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By ZhugeLiang 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
No TPA Zhuge is better. Just wait for his Uevo
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By Godric 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Now if I per say had Zhuge Liang and Izanagi with both their respective 2x atk bonus one for attacker type one for god type, would the monsters like Cao Cao who is both God and attacker benefit from both or just one? If it does stack that would be even more insane an I somehow doubt it does.
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Karu 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
They don't stack nor can you have both active at the same time.
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By Snowman 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Anyone else notice how broken this is with a Haku and Hanzo subs? With both skills that's going to be a full board of dark and water orbs. Throw in an Ares (which is also a great attacker sub) and now you have a full dark board (with 180% enhancement with Meta).

I'm also thinking of throwing in a Hell-Creating Archdemon, Lucifer for 2 more skill boost and 2 more row enhance for a total of:
9 row enhance
9 skill boost
Actives to give you a full board of enhanced dark orbs.

Basically it's a twist on the previous teams that ran Sonia, but now we have a MUCH better sub that gets the leader-skill boost form Meta and has tons of good awakenings on their own.
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Semper 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Dmeta
Hanzo
Haku
Loki
Pandora
Dmeta

10 row enhance
10 skill boost

Yep, pretty much a leader swap on my Pandora team with Haku taking Ronia's spot and Loki in Black Valk's to fulfill type requirements.

No full dark board but 3 turns of 1.5x dark atk and additional row enhances.
Last edited by Semper 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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mpfiv in reply to Semper 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
https://53944d47f4e3a70db00cc77ab91dd764499ffa09.googledrive.com/host/0B5PWFnL7__HfXzJNQVIwbXNvS2M/board/
A full dark board is inferior damage wise to a mostly dark board
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K¡ngSwi$ha in reply to Semper 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
\(*O* )/
Last edited by K¡ngSwi$ha 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 )
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By OrbTrolled 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
WTT>Ltron for Dtron. :P
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By Don@US 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Ugggggh I want a Dmeta so badly. I really hope i get it this comming godfest ;[. plss
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By Dean 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
This makes me wish I could trade my L meta for a D meta. I have pretty much every sub you could use for her. Haku, Pandora, Gryps, Hanzo x2, and king flamie...just need freakin Dmeta
Last edited by Dean 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 )
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By JWeis 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Just how OP could a DM team become... heres my suggestion.


http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=1644.99.1.99.99.99.7..1240.99.1.99.99.99.4..893.99.1.99.99.99.4..1269.99.1.99.99.99.7..1195.99.1.99.99.99.3..1644.99.1.99.99.99.7
Toyed with the idea of swapping Persephone for Satan for more rows and to keep HP down.
Last edited by JWeis 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 )
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By Skeptic 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
What do you guys think her english name is gonna be?

Roughly translates to "Judge of Divine Punishment, Metatron"
I can kinda see it more as Divine Retribution instead as she needs damage before LS comes into effect.
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Greg! 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Arbiter of Judgement, Metatron
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By jdciws 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Patiently waiting......
Any idea when we can expect this evo in NA?
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Greg! 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Today!
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jdciws in reply to Greg! 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Bout time! Thanks.
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By Firecat 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
I really really hope I pull this one during the next god fest where she's an X3 pull. I have gryphs...Hanzo...and all the material to ULT EVO her...yea. I want so bad.
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Aivan 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
I feel you, I'm on the same situation D:
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By Chrono 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Those awoken skills! LMeta seems puny in comparison, even after the Balance Wave!
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By PapayaPig 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I'm thinking of adding Okuninushi to my Dmeta team. Would that be good or bad?
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nathan@N17 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Well he doesn't have rows but he has excellent hp:recovery ratio for dmeta teams plus the mini spike/delay active
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By gargoyle 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
All Badpys(Badpies?) go to this chick, I mean it only makes sense, right? At least the first 3 you get, I just got my first Badpy and it went straight to her. Now if only I could farm some Bubs I'd be set.
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Greg! 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Man, wish I was a Badpy
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By laus 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Man, I've seen videos of her, Haku, and Hanzo absolutely wrecking everything in their paths. Even rushes and legend plus are made to look easy with these 3 and a couple of orb changers.
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Freddy 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
I never really wanted DMeta or really understood all the hype... until recently. Lol I actually really want her now, and seeing your comment made me even more anxious because I have a haku and hanzo, but no real use for the latter lol. I have great cards but the day I roll her or LZL is the day I will be done pulling the REM. Those two are my dream Gods, and I'm hoping for one of the soon!
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By Greg! 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
I finally have her!!
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By Avelarius 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Happy to get my second gf exclusive (first was GZL) but sad cause I do not have her subs. She will be sitting unevolved, clothes on in my box for the foreseeable future.
Last edited by Avelarius 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 )
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By Gabriel 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Her name becomes a lot less cool when you realize it actually means "Judge of Judgement, Metatron".
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By Agod 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
HP buff to dark types coming to her LS!
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By Firenmage 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
"By AliHotFire#24612 10 months ago ( 7.1.2 )
Oh
my
God
dmeta is now broken AF"

post buff.
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By Mustsmash 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
When's the LS update coming? Updated on here but not ingame yet.
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By --- 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Omg the Dmeta HP boost buff is coming soon... Gonna go from like 17,000 to like 30,000... A lot easier and more viable now. 😄
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--- 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
ITS OFFICIAL ITS BEEN DONE DID YASSSSS
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By Greg! 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d6Nr6TA7_0

How to farm Mechdragon Rush in a minute, care of D.Meta's now 50k HP team!
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By Cura 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Why are JP and NA versions sometimes different?
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By Greg! 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
YESSS your awesome Leader Skill buff just arrived in KR. We should be getting this after the upcoming maintenance (November 25, 2015)!!
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Greg! in reply to Potato 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
You can see the difference in her Leader Skill above. It goes something like:

Effects: Dark attribute cards HP x1.35. God & Attacker type cards ATK x4 when HP is less than 80%.

Effects: Dark attribute cards HP x1.35, ATK x1.35. ATK x4 when HP is less than 50%. ATK x3 when HP is less than 80%. ( JP ver. )

You see that (JP ver.) right there? That's what Japan currently has, whereas the first one is what North America currently has.


If you're asking about the exact buff and how it works, basically all Dark cards (sub-attribute included) forever have a 1.35x buff to HP and ATK. And then there are additional bonus multipliers for a certain HP threshold, but this applies to ALL CARDS, not just Dark. The mechanic is pretty straightforward, actually.

ATK x4 if HP is <50%, and
ATK x3 if HP is <80%.

If we include the previously mentioned 1.35x buff to ATK, D.Meta teams (assuming it's an all-Dark team) will have the following potential damage:

If HP is above 80% = 1.35x to ATK (no buff except for this passive)
If HP is below 80% but above 50% = 1.35 * 3 = 4.05x to ATK
If HP is below 50% = 1.35 * 4 = 5.4x to ATK

So typically, you'll want a team full of DARK subs, and use another D.Meta as a friend Leader. She is now probably one of the best leaders in the game, as her HP buff can make your team's HP reach to ~50,000, and your team will have a freakishly disgusting ATK, at a potential 29.16x ATK multiplier.

Check this link out to see the damage potential!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d6Nr6TA7_0

Last edited by Greg! 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 )
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Potato 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
quite new to pad but i gotten her last godfest what exactly is her buff?
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Greg! in reply to Potato 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
The update is INDEED HERE!

My D.Meta team's HP is currently at 45792

D.Meta
Awoken Haku
Satsuki
D/B Okuninushi
Awoken Yomi
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By ID 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
DMeta and Old Castle Blue Dragon Caller, Sonia just became BFF. Even Dark Liege, Vampire Duke got invited to the party. So many options now.
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By bsmx 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Wow, she can take on ultimate arena:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHLtKHK2WZU


Crazy damage thanks to her update
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By sam 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Recently I rolled two DMETAs in a god fest and my questions are:

Is DMETA still a viable leader even though I (and many others) own cards like ULT U&Y, ULT LKALI, AWOKEN KIRIN, AWOKEN RA, AWOKEN HORUS and AWOKEN BASTET? These cards seemingly outclass DMETA by quite a bit.

Secondly, if using DMETA as a sub in a team (Ex. PANDORA) is there any use to have two DMETA subs or is a second DMETA useless. Even as a sub in a DMETA leader team, she seems to be irrelevant.

And lastly, if the answer to the first question is a no, and DMETA remains a sub rather than leader, would it be beneficial to keep her in her second form? Seeing as it has a more widely used sub-attribute (D/L seems to be more popular than D/W) and a lower cost. The only major ramifications of this would be losing the 300 extra HP that D/W has.

Bonus XD:

Team?
>DMETA-PANDORA-AWOKEN LOKI-D/L BATMAN-HANZO-DMETA<

Other notable subs: another DMETA, another PANDORA, KURONE, GRAPE DRAGON.

Thanks for the responses!
Sam~Mains:LKALI Friend Me!
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SoulWiz 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
1. It depends what subs you have
I own Dark Metatron, along with core orb changer dark subs like Haku, Pandora, Satsuki Hanzo, etc
I have beaten all but one rush ( dam you kagu!!! @ yamato ) and most challenges ( first floor wait then nuke or sopdet.. gg )

Currently Dmeta along with Shiva Dragon is more of farming leader ( 'high dmg' and low puzzing required ) = running same dungeon over and over again with ease.

2. I dont have 2nd dmeta, but i always fill my team work whatever to dark ORB CHANGERS.
i own ult izanagi too, but never used, especially with haste subs like awoken haku and satsuki...
so my personal opinion is 2nd dmeta isnt really needed, unless you lack rows

3. Ult is always better ( has extra skillboots too ), and now with coming extra res skill bind buff its a must, but if you're low rank ult evo can wait


Bonus
unless you plan arena you wont really need awoken loki...
instead of batman try to get a board changer ( haku best, else akechi ie 2272, ronia or even karin )

I run
Dmeta / Haku Hanzo Satsuki and Wildcard / Dmeta
Wildcard depending on dungeon Pand, 2ndHaku, 2ndHanzo or even Vampire.
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By Squishyak 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
My question is (and sorry if it's a stupid one), does her leader skill apply to cards with a dark sub? For example, could I put my Sonia with her and get that multiplier?
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SoulWiz 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Yes.

For Type or Elemental buffs doenst matter if its primary, secondary

One thing to note is it works only once; So even if you have a sub with primary AND secondary dark, leader skill will work only once from each leader.


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By Orange 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Hoping my team cost gets high enough and I skill up my Lucifer by the time his Super-Ult gets released. As is my DMeta has been collecting dust since I got it.
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By Mtw FTW 2 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Now you can use EVO MATERIALS with her? Dayum. Too overpowered.
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By Orange 2 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
DMeta is on her way to being my new main. When I would have trouble in a dungeon with my very well along max level/awoken mostly skill upped A.Ama team, I just give it a try with my mostly level, mostly un-awakened, fully un-skilled up DMeta team and roll right through.

I also find the health management aspect to be a lot of fun to work with, and once the S-UEVO AA Luci is released I'll have a way to drop my health, but I would also like a reliable way to bring my health back up. Any monsters fit that bill? TPAs, Dark element and Heart Maker or push button heal actives?

Right now I am running:

DMeta/Satsuki/Akechi/Persephone/Okuninushi with Akechi on the chopping block for Luci due to the stat differential and Akechi's lack of prongs.

If I had a Haku I'd probably find space for her, and once I Awaken/Skill a Hinokagutsuchi maybe selectively subbing out Okun if I *need* a Def breaker. Pandora's lack of prongs would probably keep her off my team even though she could theoretically help with Binds and is a Heart maker (which is something I want). Im also in the process of Awakening a Yomi but I dont know that a few Jazz Fingers and OEs is enough to justify a spot.
Last edited by Orange 2 years ago ( 8.4.1 )
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Daniel9dsi 2 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Dmeta teams usually run on rows though, since dark has a lot of amazing row monsters
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Orange in reply to Daniel9dsi 2 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
I don't have many dark row monsters and on a burst turn using the same 12 dark orbs I'd use in 2 rows aligned in 3 prongs, Satsuki alone pushes around 2.5m and AA Lucifer will be right up there when he's released.

My box can only eke out 9 rows with my best subs, and no Lu Bu to drop my health on command so I'll stick with the orb efficiency of prongs (which also lets me use Awoken Haku if I get one).
Last edited by Orange 2 years ago ( 8.4.1 )
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Sir Bouse in reply to Daniel9dsi 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
I know. Dark is my favorite attribute. I have Pandora, Fenrirs, Zuoh, Hanzo, Dragon Zombie, Satan, Beelzebub, etc, etc.
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By Kipzy 2 years ago ( 8.6.2 ) 
If shes suppose to be the opposite of Meta then why is she not a Devil typing instead of a God?
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Bestcat! 2 years ago ( 8.6.2 ) 
They aren't exactly direct opposites they are sisters
Last edited by Bestcat! 2 years ago ( 8.6.2 )
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By (°~°)@PG 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
One of the issues with the metatrons in general is that they aren't very dupe friendly

People welcome multiple Rodins or Kalis with open arms

Metatrons really only need to be rolled once, otherwise it's basically MP fodder

Don't get me wrong, Dmeta is a great card, just that rolling more than one of her is slightly infuriating
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Bestcat! 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
Should be glad you have 50kmp
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Sir Bouse 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
I know. Any Odin is dupe friendly. When it comes to Fenrir, you WANT dupes. I have 2 Fenrirs, an evolved Fenrir, and Fenrir Viz.
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By Vic's ⓅⒶⒹ2 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
Rolled for my rank 150! I'm pleased.
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By Bestcat! 2 years ago ( 9.0.3 ) 
My baby always getting buffed
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By Asura 2 years ago ( 9.0.3 ) 
HPs Latents or Rainbow Res.?
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By Boromir 2 years ago ( 9.0.3 ) 
Why is this one so good, and the light sister is pathetic in comparison.
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Bestcat! 2 years ago ( 9.0.3 ) 
Because rarity
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By mel 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
Any thoughts on her getting an Awoken form?
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By Avelarius 1 year ago ( 9.5.1 ) 
Came back after 5 months and one single friend still using her. Lucky me I had a best friend spot. I know she will be back in the the meta again as she always do.
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By Vasile 1 year ago ( 9.6.3 ) 
Hi, I need some DMeta friends, please add me : 354, 923, 422
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By Wada@pg 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Please do UVO for L Meta!?
Last edited by Wada@pg 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 )
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purin 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
she has had one... for months now...
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ChaosS in reply to purin 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Valk proves one is never enough
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By JWeis 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
translation: JUDGE OF THE DARK GODS PUNISHMENT, METATRON
Last edited by JWeis 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 )
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By Tony 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Hey PADX moderators, they made metatron available and called Arbitor of Judgement, Metatron. So, you guys should fix the card to be available for NA.
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By Jarfield 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Team I'm working with now:

Her
Dark Fagan
W-L Susano
Awoken Neptune
Awoken Phantom God Odin
+ Athena friend

Ridiculous damage
Amazing awakenings
*no auto heal
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Daniel9dsi 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Your damage won't be much since your monster attributes are all over the place, I have no idea why you wouldn't use another dmeta as a friend, the awakenings have no synergy with each other whatsoever, and most teams shouldn't have auto heal anyways.
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By Nen 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
So was her leader skill change actually a nerf then? 4x only when below 50% now is kinda ehhhh or is this mistranslated?
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121 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Nah, not really. The 1.35 attack boost means she hits for (around) 4x when below 80%, and (around) 5x when below 50%
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taylorswif 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
A straight buff. Technically speaking <80% it's x16.40~, then at <50% it's a huge x29.16! And any dark cards work. Very strong.
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By Vinny 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Think I'm in love with a PAD card. Might need to go to a Psychiatrist now.. Thanks Gung Ho for making me question if it's ok to think cartoons are hott..
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By LotusOne 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I liked her better when she did both light and dark orbs... looks like I wont be evolving her....
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Ash 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Small price to pay for 4x Attack for Gods.
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By DK 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Nerfed
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Daniel9dsi 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
U must be high
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By Ash 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Umm. She's still gonna get wrecked by pre-emptives. Are people really getting this hype over dem legs?
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Firecat 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
You do realize it's less than 80% and not more correct? Dmeta thrives on pre emptives.
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By iruleallz 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
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tant in reply to VLJ 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
A feminist is someone who thinks women are equal to men. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't think making something sexualized even more sexualized is something feminists are against. It's a game card. This of all places is the best place for fantasies to run wild.

Now, it's quite the stereotype that feminists are people who protest publicly constantly and are against anything that might credit a woman's beauty over their intelligence.. Not true at all. Certainly some feminists are like that, and those are the people you see on the news, which is why it's easy to believe the stereotype.

Of course, biologically, women aren't equal to men. But we've come to a time where being stronger doesn't mean being more successful, as it was probably was during the Ice Age. So we're talking in terms of opportunities and education, and making money.

So yes, you may be a feminist and not even know it! In fact, if anyone here is a decent human being, they'd be one. Have they disappeared yet? I think not..
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tant 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Not sure if you know what a feminist is. Everything else, I can agree with. Her design is absolutely amazing. I envy these artists.
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★Liao24★ 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
PAD has a variety or artwork, from characters with masculine features to innocent looking ones, and so on... For instance, Thor's other ult evo is a female who looks very built. There are no controversies over his transgender, even according to the mythologies. Another example, check out Lilith's attacker ult evo, she has less clothing than Dark Meta, while she was designed a long time ago. Don't even get me started on the Heras. Each character is unique, and each of their art describes their character or events they were known for. Now, there happens to be a recent card with a voluptuous body which happens to be Dark Metatron. So what? Its part of the diversity of PAD's artwork, if anything we should be praising good artwork.
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VLJ in reply to tant 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Care to explain what a feminist is? I am one and I'm very curious as to know why you said he may not know what one is.
Other than that, GungHo does over-sexualize a lot of cards...but, I still love/am addicted to this game. :P
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★Liao24★ in reply to Beluga 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Have you taken in consideration that some women are proud and confident of their bodies, and shows it off as strength, not just to appease men. For example, Amazons and battle queens, eg. Durga. Some men such as fighters and warriors also display that same concept, such as without a shirt to display battle scars, eg. Fagan. People are people, they have different personalities just like you and I. The art is to capture the characteristics of these iconic cards. Another factor is culture, some may argue that it is ideal to be covered in clothing or ideal to bare physical feats. There are no oversexualization for either genders but the perception behind each individual, if you felt there is, then you initially felt this way even before Dark Metatron's art. Your opinion is valid however, but do not try to promote awareness to stir up controversy. There are so many cards in this game that do not fit in your category as being exploited based on gender, eg. Athena. A few appealing cards should not be categorized as discriminating, it should not makes a difference on how good or bad a PAD is.
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tant in reply to Beluga 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Yep! Now here's the more controversial issue.. Whether I can pull her in this godfest or not xD
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tant in reply to Beluga 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Hmm.. That never occurred to me: the fact women may not be naturally weaker then men but become that way due to environmental factors. It would be quite amazing if it were true, but at the same time, science has proven that puberty plays a role in muscle and fat development. Of course, this is a general assumption, gender is irrevelant if you can't keep a healthy lifestyle.

As for women being more sexualized than men, it's all context. If we're talking about a real, living female, then I personally believe there should be a limit to how much you can "objectify" her. If we're talking about Dark Metatron here, I see nothing wrong. I might look down upon a work of fiction that negatively sexualizes women, but it's fiction and you'd have to be mental to pretend it's anything more. I just hope we can come to a time when notions such as treating a women as inferior or dominated by men are perceived as hilariously ridiculous.

(OT lol)
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Dabs 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
YOUR OWN POST, breaks your invalid argument's logic. You're moaning & groaning about feminists that should be standing up blah blah

Then you to onto to use the word "Monster". Y'know that word right? How can you pretend to be offended or wish others were offended, when clearly you're well aware everything on this game is considered to be a "MONSTER" leaving you no real credibility in your troll rant. At least I hope its a troll rant, because if not, then you're just idiotic&looking for attention in the wrong place. We don't need your Cry-Baby attitude taking up BANDWIDTH on a website that's FREE for you & everyone else to use.

Now go do us a a favor & cry elsewhere. Please & THANK YOU :^) =^] =>)
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Mr.Sir in reply to tant 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
This statement...

Is a bit too true. I wish I could transfer these magic stones growing on my fig tree into this game instead of eating them. I have no idea if it's even making me smarter like I thought it would.
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milkyway in reply to VLJ 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Sexuality is something to be praised and cared for, not to be shut away and ignored. It is part of our human nature. We could not make children without it. Taking it away is taking away a huge part of life to enjoy. Enjoying the sexiness of people and depictions that you find sexy is very enjoyable. I don't see any useful reason to snuff it out or dull it down. Praise be to the enjoyment of our sexuality! Go Gungho for being free to enjoy!

Edit: Furthermore, I believe one of the reasons many american feminists do not praise sexuality is due to the type of sexuality that the popular american culture has cultivated to popularity. In america vulgarity and stark nakedness what they have popularly deemed to be the most sexual way to be. However in other cultures this is not always the case. For example, in Japan they often embrace the innocent, shy, modest person to be extremely sexually appealing. You find this in many Animes such as the Chobits series. What this tells me is that the american feminists who have an aversion to the popular sexualization in america simply do not favor that type of sexuality. Maybe if they explore other cultures praised types of sexuality they would find a type more suitable to their tastes and comfort zones. There are many different ways to be turned on. The one that is popular in the country you grew up in may not be the one you prefer but that does not mean you should blanket ban all sexuality because you have yet to realize and/or discover a different type.
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iruleallz 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Why a downvote?
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milkyway 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Being a feminist does not mean you can't appreciate sexuality, style, and beauty. In fact, I think a feminist would love to embrace these things about themselves and other women and own them like a boss!
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Beluga in reply to tant 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Thanks for the (civil) reply!

I'll read up on the research about that. That's pretty interesting.

As for your second point, I agree that it's ridiculous to look at a game and project that onto real human beings. It's just that fiction isn't entirely separate from reality - it can subconsciously (and easily) affect people, especially through the opinions of the rest of community. If the entire comment section is "dude, she's so hot; what a nice ass", that just justifies that kind of behaviour for others. And if an entire game has just sexy women, what does that say to the audience?

But about DMeta specifically: as a single character with sex appeal, that's fine. I don't see anything wrong with that either. It is, however, worrying when a great proportion of female characters are sexualized.

I won't argue any further - thanks for the discussion.
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Beluga in reply to tant 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I agree with some of what you said, but disagree with a few points. Please note that I am not saying this for the sake of argument, but to clarify the feminist standpoint.

It's true that the concept of feminism is to equalize the representation and power of women and men. While feminists are not necessarily against sexualization in general, it does become a problem when women are disproportionately sexualized in comparison to men. One could argue that there are plenty of "muscular men" in media - superheroes, for example - but many would argue that these aren't designed to necessarily appeal to women, but the male vision of power. These ideas can easily perpetuate throughout society and influence people's behaviours, despite being only part of a game.
In relation to PAD, I haven't done a thorough search through all of the cards, but I CAN see that many of the female cards are sexualized (large chest, very little armour, belly exposed), while it's quite varying for the male cards (old and young, covered in armour, etc....Odin is probably an exception here, lol).

And aaah, the biological argument. It's still arguable whether women truly are less physically capable than men. Some psychological studies show that the reason men appear to grow up stronger than women is because of the way the genders are treated; boys are more often encouraged to take up sports and rough play, while girls are more often dictated by society to be docile. This can have an effect on their growth.

tldr; Sexualization can be a problem if it's not balanced. Women may or may not actually be as strong as men.

Anyway - I'm glad you're being critical about the feminism and not blindly supporting one side or the other.
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Jordan 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
They don't stack though...
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Bestcat! 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
They actually added a sbr....such a troll there was no third row
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Seika in reply to Jordan 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
Is that really the case/ Why would they bother to specif ATT in the 50% LS then? That doesn't make any sense..
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AlexDragon 10 months ago ( 11.1.1 ) 
Dark Metatron
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By まゆゆ 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
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Yu no Yuno 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
And what do you have against darker skin?
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nagato 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I like the dark skinned meta more no lie
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Semper in reply to Yu no Yuno 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
If for a moment I may play the Arbiter of Judgement...

While I think the OP should have known better to post it on a public forum (it screams bait), I can't see what the controversy is all about. They expressed a personal opinion about a piece of art in a rather well mannered way compared to what you might expect.

Sometimes I wish people would stop trying to change the world from behind their computer screens. If it matters to you then do something about it, but I don't think that putting words in their mouth serves anything but one's own righteous indignation. /rant

That said, pulling the pin and running also screams troll so... mission accomplished?

EDIT: Also, I really don't see a difference in the pictures. lol
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Talisman 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
It contrasts with her hair. I like it.
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Dylan 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
We already have 2 light skinned Metatrons. 4 if you count all the evos.
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Anarkist 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Deepika Padukone has the same skin color and she's fiya
open ur mind
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神up!朱雀殿 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Don't think it was lighter, it's just an optical illusion because the small icon mainly focuses on the lighter part of her picture--the face.
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Guest 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Wow, what a horrible opinion. Go away
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Anon 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Insert "w0w u rasis" quote here. Not saying what he said was okay though.
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