No.1272
紅の機神将・エルダーヨトゥン
 Physical / Machine
6 ★
MP 1 Cost 27
 LvHPATKRCVWeightSellExp
1211470433535251238
995074101510674651975122513
 *1 Experience gain bonus from same element
 *2 Weighted Stat: HP / 10 + ATK / 5 + RCV / 3
50% damage reduction for 3 turns.
CD: 20 Turns ( 15 Turns at Lv.6 )
This card cannot be used as assist.
All attribute cards ATK x3 when attacking with Fire & Light orb types at the same time.
Skill Up Cards
Applicable Killer Latents
Awoken Skills
Evolution
Lv25
Lv70
Ultimate Evolution
Reverse Ultimate Evolution by using
Grayed out Japanese cards
Golem Series
Drop Locations for #1272
This card can be obtained by:
- Evolution from Flame Mech Warrior, Jotunn
Other tiers of this card can be obtained from:
Frozen Soil of Prosell
Hyperion Lava Flow
Fire Forest Nerva
Tower of Giants
Volcano of Vulcan
Dungeon of Fire
Monday Dungeon
Tuesday Dungeon
Deus ex Machina Descended!
PAD Battle Tournament Collab
Breakers
Alt. Frozen Soil of Prosell
Super-Ultimate Norse Rush!
October Quest Dungeon
September Quest Dungeon
Machine Challenge!-Mythical
April Quest Dungeon
Machine Quest Challenge!
Descended Challenge! 34
Descended Challenge! 29
Descended Challenge! 24
Descended Challenge! 25
Descended Challenge! 19
Descended Challenge! 16
Descended Challenge! 12
Descended Challenge! 10
Descended Challenge! 8
Descended Challenge! 7
Fire & Light Armored Dragons
One-Shot Challenge! 14
One-Shot Challenge! 12
Mechanical Goemon Descended!
Alt. Hemera Volcanic Belt
Beelzebub Tournament
Machine Hera Descended!
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By Black Man 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Wow a flat 3x leader skill with flexible subs. I could see this as a potential leader for farming super difficult dungeons like Golden Keeper or...

Oh wait.

Golden Keeper.

3 of them.

Farm.

Oh.
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Stephen 4 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 
Fortunately we now have these random PAL egg events. Unfortunately, the luck probably won't be there until you somehow manage to get Keeper of Gold's dungeon on farm... >_>
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3thual 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
It took a while but I managed to get four of them from pal egg... I'm tempted
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Destroyer 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
I saw this guy in options to friend when I was farming a dungeon (don't remember what for) so I chose him as friend and when I finished the dungeon it said, would you like to send a friend request? And I was like YES YES YES!!!! Then it said this user's friend box is full T_T
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Vaedriel 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
I've gotten 3 KoGs in the last 2 months worth of Evo Pal events... so not that hard to get them if you can't run the dungeon yet.

However, my KoG's are reserved for my Ra, Raphael and LKali. :)
Last edited by Vaedriel 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 )
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Guest 2 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
2 years later...
Yep, Gold Keeper ain't hard to farm at all - I farm it every tuesday with A. Shiva!
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By BooskSA 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
the dude is on fire does he really need a scarf?
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Walrus 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
He's a Hipster, never too scorching hot for hats and scarfs.
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Rapid 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Idk man, even blazing hot robots can get cold.
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西瓜子 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I wondered the same thing when I saw Natsu in Fairy Tale the first time ~_~
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Destroyer in reply to 西瓜子 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
I was about to talk about fairy tail then you had to go and ruin it, NATSU LOVES HIS SCARF IT'S FROM IGNEEL HOW DARE YE SAY THAT
Last edited by Destroyer 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 )
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By Krosis 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
This guy looks like he punches dragons to death. 10/10
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By James 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Big O! It's showtime!
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By Nick|RDE 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Still don't got nothin on my maxxed valk
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By Vincent 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
It's not worth it, I got gigas the great and he is way better and easier to get
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By Bearski 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
imagine double strawberry dragon + 4 of these max active skill level XD
half damage every turn
96000+ HP
decent recovery
ultimate team for grinding lmao.
probably more effective than double luci
ATK is not looking so good though.
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By Shadow@PF 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
wow just wow 3 gold rainbow keeper for this???? LOL NO!
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Gokubora 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Although it seems a bit costly, after looking at it from an overall perspective I'd have to kinda disagree with you, why:

#1: Once you reach second form you only need invest about 600k xp in order to max then pretty much attain this form assuming you have the materials for the third and ulti respectively.

#2: YOUR GETTING A UNIVERSAL NON SPECIFIC TYPE/COLOR LOCKED 3x BOOST TO ALL!!! MONSTERS yet dude only costs freakin 27!!! as compared to the mighty Cu Chu/Sieg who only do 3x for one TYPE and cost 35!!!.

#3: Continuing off the facts of #2, you're basically getting a MORE SIMPLIFIED VERSION of one of the chinese deity girls(Haku, Genbu, etc) that only requires TWO COLORS in order to achieve x3 instead of x3.5 atk for ALL!!!!, is a HYBRID with F/L and the light adds another 30% more damage overall!!!, and he only costs 27!!!.

Fact is if these new ultimates required ANYTHING LESS COSTLY in exchange for the NON TYPE/COLOR LOCKED POWER THAT YOU GET especially for those who don't own a Haku, Genbu, etc combined with the fact that golems are pretty much the "pikachus" of the game considering how basic and easy they are to acquire supposedly, all things considered if these ultis DIDN'T require something like this then that UNRESTRICTED x3 for ALL would have probably been x3 for either their own COLOR or a certain type, we are essential evolving a "troll" monster that nobody seemed to want into the type of monster that EVERYONE would want, main OR sub, we must always think about all of the facts before we pass judgment on something lol.
Last edited by Gokubora 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 )
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a pebble in reply to Gokubora 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
You're pretty much right. New ulti golems will be great subs. They have a potentially life-saving active, are unbindable, and actually have rcv that's not a single digit. Gold keeper is much more easily farmable than say, twinlits, since it's much less rng based and it's easily 0-stonable once you hit an hp threshold. Not saying they're suddenly the optimal subs or anything, but I can see situations where you might prefer them over gigas.
Last edited by a pebble 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 )
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kai@HNL 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
LOL @ BreaKBeatZ & Gokubora. you 2 took this your argument to another level. the fact of the matter is... making this evo is a matter of your ability to pass gold keepers dungeon. I bet if you could easily get gold keepers you would be singing a different tune.

this Evo gains a very usable Lskill, Light sub color, 100atk, 100 rcv & 100% BIND RESISTANCE! only an idiot would not Uevo him if u had the materials.
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Gokubora in reply to BreaKBeatZ 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
All im going to say is that nothing you said proved any major point whatsoever, you just pretty much put a couple of sentences together just for arguments sake in an attempt to discredit and then hit "add comment" as your last sentence clearly demonstrates lol, my overall point was in "response" to people pretty much wanting to have their cake and eat it to, you seem to be cognitive enough to read my posts but you somehow can't comprehend my points lol, fact is that for something that begins as a throwaway monster the golem can now be of decent use as a lead or sub if you can acquire the materials, point blank.

For you to say that if someone is strong enough to get the evo mats then they probably wouldn't need this guy then you might aswell say that if someone is strong enough to get any of the new evo mats then they might as well just not use them since clearly they already have enough power to do so lol, and the reason I listed my REM pulls was to make it clear that I am not a "noob", have cleared every major descend, and am speaking from a great deal of experience such as yourself so therefore only sharing what I know to be fact ;).

Point is whether you think it costs too much or not this form makes this monster way more useful to more players as a viable lead or sub, you may not think so but that is your own opinion of the fact, but then again as I've stated or "bragged" about previously, I happen to have the cards that he would go very well with as a sub or lead even though I have "better" leads lol.

P.S There is a grand difference between someone being "defensive" and someone who has no problem making sure that things aren't getting misunderstood :).
Last edited by Gokubora 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 )
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Drake 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Seriously speaking, for my part, I'd be ready to farm Gold Keepers and whatever hell needed to ult-evo him... but can someone tell me how worth is it to ult-evo?
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El Rayo in reply to BreaKBeatZ 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Rarely want to add a sub for HP? Sounds like something a player with a lower rank might say. Or maybe you have a solid spike team and can burst through floors? I'm at rank 203 and I am often confronted with the need for more HP, even with my Kirin team. Gigas is a tank. I've had him for months and he's on many of my teams, but this Jotunn is bind resistant and can stall (or save your life) for 2-3 turns. Imagine having a battle where your whole team is binded? Jotunn could block it and then activate his skill to stall or save your life. I love them both.
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Amy in reply to kai@HNL 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
I can clear Keeper of the Gold very easily and have to say that I am stoked to add this monster to my monster box. For more higher rank players like myself it is not that we need certain monsters, it is that we WANT certain monsters. I could continue playing and clearing descends with the monsters I have but what fun would that be? I like putting together unique teams with different skill sets.I like this monsters leader skill and am looking forward to having some fun with him.
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BreaKBeatZ in reply to Gokubora 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I disagree. I'd rarely want to add a sub to my team just for extra HP, but if I needed to, it would be Gigas over this guy for sure. As a leader he is decent for lower level players, but they won't have the ability to get the gold keepers. By the time you can farm gold keepers, there are much better options. 3.5 is a big difference from 3 since two 3.5 leaders give 12.25 instead of 9.
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Gokubora in reply to BreaKBeatZ 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Hey, there's nothing wrong with you disagreeing, but speaking as someone who owns Okuninushi(4x atk for all), Haku(3.5 for all), Vintage ulti Cu Chu, NEW B/L ulti Siegried(3.5 for physicals), Ronia, Bodin, Perseus, Freyr, Ulti Gigas AND Ulti Artemis which golem now qualifies for since he is light now combined with my Gigas giving me 22k hp for just those 2 alone on my Artemis team, I'd say I think I know what I'm talking about from a non closed minded perspective lol, but hey, to each his own, great additions none the less, can't wait for the light and dark golems to get theirs :).

I think it's mighty funny how people whine and complain about getting golems in their pulls and then start petitioning that they need ulti evos to be more "useful", but then when they give us exactly that yet make the requirements a little tough to fulfil because the golems themselves are so EASY to get, then people want to still fuss and moan and say that it now costs too much to turn a throwaway monster into a keeper lol smh. Anyway feel free to add me, you saw some of the things I have, but I can always use another "good" universal spiker on my list ;).
Last edited by Gokubora 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 )
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BreaKBeatZ in reply to Gokubora 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Wow I've never seen someone get so defensive that they need to list all the REM pulls they have in order to validate their post.

In your OP you were evaluating this guy as a team lead. His leader skill is bad, it's just that simple. It's not terrible, but there are many better choices that are a lot easier to obtain and ult evo. You named a few in your last bragging post.

In your second post, you replied to me regarding his usefulness as a sub. He's a clunky low damage low rcv meat shield. He fits decently in a Goemon team, but there are better options. Overall, he had quite bad synergy with almost every build.

Since when has team cost been a problem that you need to compare this guy's 7 less cost compared to Cu Chu/Sieg? If you're still struggling with team cost, I'm sorry for you.
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By Rubicari 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Don't like, not one bit. Mat is too expensive for the return investment. They should have gave him 3.5 Att on the leader skill (at the very least!). Only way I'd ever ult evo to this, is if I had already ult evo'd every other monster in my collection, had the materials just sitting there, and was bored. After that, I'd still just use him as a sub.
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By lux143 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
none of these are worth 3 gk's, not a chance. ill be keeping my 3.
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By Ryan B 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
They should have given the fourth evo five awakenings the first one should have been defense against fire types, fire orbs are plus, two binds and the last plus skill
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By SuperBug 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Flamemon digivolve to..... Megaflamemon!!!!! EEEKKKKKKKKK
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By Furiko 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Do his awoken ability really change ?
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kai@HNL 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
lol... yes a few pets have awoks that change after evolution
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By Tony 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Unbindable fire type. Maybe, one of the first fire types that are actually UNBINDABLE. This guy at max skilled can do so much for his team if you have ever need some type of defense, but the other colors in the pad rainbows cannot be replaced for defense. Let's say you're running the a team full of ultimate evolutions because you obviously had what it takes to have 3 golden keepers. F/L Horus, B/L Isis, or Double L Kirin as the leaders and then you take this guy with G.odin, L.metatron and Echidna. Your team could never be binded and you have enough hp to take a hit or two unless it's over the hp cap. Your recovery should be good with the special gods healing you for 2500 on top of whatever you're healing with from all the high rcv. If your leads get binded unless you're Isis. You can just use Metatron to remove the binds and maybe delay the next attack or take hits with this guy's active and letting the bind run out. Pretty much this guy will be helpful when you need a bind free team. I would run susano instead of odin if I could stall in a dungeon or if you don't have him. Green Odin is really good now for his amazing heal and skill boosts/stats and being bind free. Isis would be replaceable for lmeta for a sub or any blue, bind-free, bind remover. If you need a dark attribute take some dark delay instead of echidna.
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By Æro 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
......1274 & 1275....Ultimate Evos of Machine Golem & Dark Golem....IJS.

PS - Kind of reminds me of the color scheme for old Transformer's Hot Rod/Rodamus Prime.
Last edited by Æro 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 )
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By Bahamut 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Im pretty sure he looks like one of the Transformers from the 3rd movie of Transformers
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By Jesus 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
I have gold keepers on farm. Give decent exp and golem was fun to get
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By OmastarBC 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
all i'm going to say is Ultimate Hermes with these Golems gives you massive hp. that's the main reason i want them.
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Unkownism 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Just pointing out that King Mastering would be better for the Hp boost.
Max Mech Generals & Mastering with his lead nets you 49423 without a friend where Hermes in place of Mastering nets you 37686 w/o friend.
Although I must say a uvo Hermes lead/friend, Generals, & uvo Batman+ S glove lead/friend makes an outstanding team, with Heavenly Herald Archangel or uvo GrOdin for recovery.
I'd suggest Mastering to go with a Goemon though.
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By redbull 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
So..is the 3x attack it's just for him? Or to all the othe monsters too?
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yt 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
all of them. (color doesn't matter for the subs)
Last edited by yt 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 )
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By Suzuteo 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
As with all golems, the bi-color requirement sounds flexible, but it's really not. I mean, you need to have two sets of orbs on the board at all times to attack with what is essentially one color; it's not like Golems are Chinese, with built-in orb-changing. Jotunn is the most usable since Fire lacks a native 3x Type leader, but Cu Chu and Siegfried are much easier to obtain and consistent in play, with plenty of farmable subs.
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Nalgaeryn 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Cao Cao is the attacker leader for fire.
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By Dr. Psaroo 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Look closely. He has rocket fists.

Target: You
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By jyoungg31 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
was it worth to evo this? probably not. but after rolling 3 golden keepers, i felt like it was a sign
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wrh1994 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
That's the same feeling I'm getting. In fact if I don't pull something that uses gold keepers from the players choice godfest that's what I'm doing.
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By sam 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Nice artwork.
Last edited by sam 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 )
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By sam 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
So I wanna put in my opinion on this guy. Honestly, the people who are complaining about the mats shouldn't be. He's meant for higher level players that can attain the keepers (Though the dungeon or lots of pal). The next part is people complaining about hes not even worth it. That part I sort of agree with. At max lvl he only get 5000 HP? Even at lvl 50 he only get around 3000, which I think is a mistake on gunghos part. I definetly think that, because of his evo mat cost, his HP should be around 7000 at max lvl (outclassing gigas who is easier to evo and has 6000 HP at max) also to bring up his dang attack! Really, only 1000 atk at max level for an ult evo?!?! That's just bad for any ultimate, not just one with mats of this rarity. Moving on to the skills. The skill I'd say is decent, just cause you can actually skill it up and its usefuls on a team like his (high hp, medium atk multiplier). His lskill is actually great! As gokubora said, its a universal 3× atk for matching ONLY TWO COLORS! That's actually great, knowing that people defeat amazingly hard dungeons with 9× atk. Need an example? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZvJoRfh43c this shows a 9× divinegon team beating the Wednesday dungeon. If they can do it by making long rows why not use this and do it by only combining two colors? Overall this monster needs a buff but still pretty decent.
Last edited by sam 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 )
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StriderHLC 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
The Divinegon team you've linked there is relying heavily on row enhances to do damage and orb changers to enable that. Requiring two different colors to trigger the 3x is going to make that a lot more difficult and be more susceptible to orb-trolling.

I'm just saying. To make a go of it with a Golem-led team is going to require a bunch of TPAs or Row Enhances, orb-changers, and probably a way to do big burst damage against enemies who can kill you faster than you can tank, and that may be difficult or impossible to assemble.
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By Ravedge 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
When i see the golem series i think of the power rangers
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By ZHA 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
i see both sides ya sure you can waste 3 gold keepers but you can use as a leader with 2 bind resistant great for technical dungeons, easy skill ups! its L meta also has 2 bind resists which makes her a successful leader so i see both sides good and bad
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By Cesarius 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
GOGO ROCKET FISTS
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By Zooropa 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
Have my Flame Mech Warrior waiting for the ridiculous amount of KoG. Need this for my Ars Nova team. I have his blue brother on my Wes Jas Rainbow/Light-Sub team and it was well worth the evo materials.
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By Guest 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
ROCKET PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNCHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By Tofu 2 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
This guy was my main leader for a long time when I first started playing. I love the artwork so much I can't bear to use him as evo material. These guys make great early leader considering they're basically farmable.
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By Kraken 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
ROCKETU PUNCHE!!!
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By Chocula 2 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
I consider
#2127 Light Mech General, Sherospada http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2127
and
#2128 Dark Mech General, Hysferzen http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2128
to be extra Ultimate Evos of this guy.

The Golden Keeper cost of them is super high but 75% defense reduction for 5 turns and 20% damage reduction for 5 turns that's unbindable is pretty good in certain circumstances.
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By Guest 8 months ago ( 12.0.3 ) 
I might want to see Gigas getting another Evo branch since him and WRG Valkyrie are feeling the loss of their backup course of action. For reasons unknown, I feel like his elective advancement will empty his wellbeing detail into assault and an unbiased rcv and make him an F/F assailant. Unless they make him a divine being/demon/PURE PHYSICAL composes https://www.speedyassignment.co.uk/assignment-writing-services/. I don't perceive what they will do. It'll be intriguing to see him slimmer, however similarly as constructed. Then again, I can likewise envision him going dull like a saint turned sour. He'll have considerably more negative rcv and greater assault or hp.
Last edited by N/A 8 months ago ( 12.0.3 )
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By angel 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I'm pretty sure his leader skill would be useless to anyone that is capable of obtaining three gold keepers due to the fact that you will have a good spike leader as the only way to get gold keepers is with a good spike leader! So therefore he should remain at a sub but why give him 3 gold keepers to increase atk and rcv slightly? Better to not ulti evo him and well, gigas is a better option imo as a sub.
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Mr.Sir 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
*cough* Gigas the Great=negative RCV. This guy=over 100 RCV and an active that could save your bacon from getting crushed by a refrigerator with giant fangs saying "LEMME EAT YOUR PHONE". PLUS this guy has two giant rocket fists that will sky uppercut gigas before he even knew what happened. This is getting outta hand, so I'm gonna stop and eat your bacon that was mentioned above.
Last edited by Mr.Sir 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 )
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BreaKBeatZ 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Exactly.
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By SoEasy 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
I have him ultimate evo...just started using him today...altho i had him ulti long time ago...at level 36 of 99...his stats are good..hp at 3171...atk at 815..rcu at 43 with one +egg however ...I have none of his awakens yet... so all in all i like him so far..
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By nturtle 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
3x Golden Keepers to evo? F*%K YOU GUNGHO!
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