No.1238
凛聖の双華神・大喬&小喬
 God / Healer
6 ★
MP 5000 Cost 25
 LvHPATKRCVWeightSellExp
110067063563604951163
992415122164169949005115088
 *1 Experience gain bonus from same element
 *2 Weighted Stat: HP / 10 + ATK / 5 + RCV / 3
Change Dark orbs to Light orbs, Fire orbs to Heart orbs.
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CD: 13 Turns ( 8 Turns at Lv.6 )
This card can be used as assist.
All attribute cards ATK x4 when attacking with 4 of following orb types: Fire, Water, Wood, Light, Dark & Heart.
Skill Up Cards
Assist Bonus Stat
HP +242 ATK +61 RCV +96 ( Max Lv )
HP +341 ATK +86 RCV +141 ( Max Lv & +297 )
Applicable Killer Latents
Awoken Skills
Evolution
Lv50
Ultimate Evolution
Reverse Ultimate Evolution by using
Grayed out Japanese cards
Three Kingdoms 1 Series
Drop Locations for #1238
This card can be obtained by:
- Evolution from Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
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By Endokun 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
If you feel that Horus is being outclassed, then you're right for most dungeons where 16x + slime active is sufficient. Assuming every Horus user has the F/L evo (you really have no excuse other than not being able to do Twinlits), DQXQ still doesn't have the same firepower Horus has. It's true that DQXQ has an easier activation condition, better awakenings, stats, active ability, and sub-type, but she doesn't have 5x ATK. In dungeons that have multiple floors with HP heavy bosses (True Endless), Horus/Kirin/Ra/Anubis are much better when stalling is not an option.

I consider Horus to be the midpoint between DQXQ and Ra in terms of activation ease and firepower. If you already use (F/L) Horus and is proficient at using him, DQXQ won't be "that" much better. Needless to say, DQXQ is very powerful and even I want to use her.
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Andrew 2.0 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
You're also comparing a non ulti-evo monster vs an ulti-evo Horus.
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a pebble in reply to FormX 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Yeah i agree that dqxq beats horus in tricolors, although a combo lead is better than both. However, horus doesn't need 5 colors to activate, it's just a nice boost. Horus's uvo gives him the advantage of being able to consistently deal 16x damage while spiking harder with 25x when allowed to, while dqxq's only real boost is king shynee or sandalphon, although she can make up her multiplier disadvantage with the ability to go light heavy. Just to clarify, I don't believe that horus is better than dqxq. I just believe that the gap between them isn't as large as some people seem to think.
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BryanShin in reply to a pebble 5 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
What the....no.

Horus has about a 5-10% of being orb-trolled.

DXQX has, like, I'm trying to calculate it right now, but my guess is her chance of getting orb-trolled is less than 0.5%.

Not to mention that the Three Kingdoms Gods have yet to receive uvos.

And DXQX and Horus aren't even CLOSE on the difficulty scales.
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FormX in reply to a pebble 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Again, 4 combos and 4 colors are two different things. In a tri-color dungeon you can always make 4 combos for sure but you will never make 4 colors.

Dqxq counting hearts means that you only need 4 of the 6 orb types on board, while for Horus you need all 5 colors to activate 25x.
Last edited by FormX 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )
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FormX in reply to a pebble 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
5 combos, yes, but Horus' skill counts colors not combos. If 5x color is always doable for you no need for these go with Ra.
Last edited by FormX 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )
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D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
That is exactly my excuse lol: I can't get Twinlits. And yeah, the ultimate evo can hit 5x but again, that's if you can get it. DQ & XQ come in with a MUCH easier activation, no drawback whatsoever. With Ra and Anubis, their potential is much better than DQ & XQ but as I'm sure you know, they are extremely difficult to activate. DQ & XQ are much easier.. so it's just saying "What's the point in having a Horus, unless it's F/L?" DQ & XQ are much better in that you can attack with 4x while healing. Can't do that with Horus unless you hit a 5 combo minimum, which isn't always doable.
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Drew in reply to Pichu 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
I have both of these, al level 55 UY and a 96DQXQ, and I think both are amazing, they have certain advantages and disadvantages, but surprisingly I prefer blue Sonia over them
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Walrus in reply to a pebble 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Horus is useless in tri-colors. A more fair comparison would be DQXQ vs W/L Isis.
Last edited by Walrus 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 )
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El Rayo in reply to a pebble 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Perhaps the gap isn't as wide as people think... I'm curious as to why there is little to no mention of DQXQ's light enhance, and an active that sets up the board for light rows. I've yet to see a good fire row enhance build with Horus as the lead. I guess it's because of his color restrictions/ inability to use heart obs to trigger his LS. There are so many options for DQXQ. Sandolphen, Here Sol, Baal, divinegon, D/L Batman, Gohan, Trunks, Vegeta. The list goes on and on. I currently have a light enhance DQXQ build and the damage is insane. 5 row enhancements alone would bring the damage output up to 24x, no? Not to mention light cannot be resisted unlike fire. Just my thoughts.
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a pebble in reply to FormX 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Horus's leader skill does count colors, but I meant that you should always make more than 4 combos anyway. My point is that dqxq and horus are so similar on the difficulty and consistency scale that it doesn't really matter. Didn't really say it clearly in my first comment tho :/. Horus's access to x25 damage also gives him a huge advantage over dqxq, although that'll probably change once she gets her uevo.
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Battleship 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Looking for friends with this gal, 346,251,258
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Pichu 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
You forgot about U&Y. He is far better than kirin, anubis and ra. U&Y has a better chance of activating their 5x because of their active skill, they already satisfy 2/4 colors needed to activate their leader skill, and their CD is 8 turns.

I have both Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao and U&Y, but I still prefer U&Y even if activating U&Y's leader is a tiny bit harder.
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a pebble in reply to D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Unless you've just used goemon's skill or something, it's pretty much always possible to hit 5 combos, and even though horus and dqxq's activation only requires 4 combos, you'll have to make more to beat descends or other hard dungeons. The easier activation of dqxq is pretty much a moot point since horus and dqxq are both almost always activatable. Only significant advantages she has over horus are healer subtype for burst and a more useful active
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By WorldSend 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
To those of you that can't decide over these ladies or Horus, they're both good. These are easier and will work in Tricolor, but (FL) Horus has more power.
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By Yohan @PG 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
This is definitely better than the normal, un UVO'd or the R/R UVO Horus because of a comparable (same for un-uvod) multiplier and easier activation... but if you have the F/L Horus, 25x is a lot better than 16x, it's just common sense. Plus, with DQXQ, you can't get over 16x at once anyway unless they add a UVO. and with Horus, 4 colors isn't hard at all. a basic 5 combo should match 4 colors most of the time anyway. Plus, if you have monsters with extra time awakenings, it will make hard moves a lot easier, hard moves meaning the ones where you have 2 colors that have 3 orbs separated. Even without extra time, 4 colors is not hard. with the time, it brings 5x into the picture more often. Plus, if you put in heartbreakers (i use Choo Choo Train), it makes that 1 color you might be missing more accessible. and with a burst team, attack and HP for fallback take priority in my mind over rcv. It might just be a few of us, but i would take Horus any day over DQXQ. After all, 16x just simply isn't enough to beat descended dungeons without having a +297 team.
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DLish 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
My Red Sonia with Lu Bu sub (15.625x when activated) would beg to differ about the 16x not being enough. She cheats though with rows and that tasty active skill. DQXQ + slime = a pistol on one hand and a breach loading shotgun on your back (you get 2 for the price of one!). It is easy to use and hit things with, you have a single big shot on demand, but it is slow to reload if you want another big hit. F/L Horus = semi auto rifle. Harder to hit things with and doesn't make sense in certain situations, but no waiting to reload and it can always hit hard. Honestly though, the argument over DQXQ vs Horus usually boils down to "which one do you have and have good subs for?" If you have both you will probably don't need other people's opinions on which you should use.

edit: I have both and plenty of subs btw. I would loved to have had either to start the game with and they are both fun. My demon teams get all the real love (+eggs) though.
Last edited by DLish 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 )
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El Rayo in reply to DLish 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
But if the shynee is on a light row enhance build, you potentially have a shotgun blast and two magnum shots if you use to DQXQs. DQXQ's AS sets up the board for easy light rows. he damage output can be nasty.
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By Gokubora 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Looks like Horus is getting a run for his money in the form of two little Wu Dynasty girls lol, Miss Da Qiao and Miss Xiao Qiao will be way more ideal for those who want big damage spikes yet don't want any color restrictions and the best part about them is that EVERY dungeon has at least 3 colors and hearts!!!.

So they trump Horus from a universally unrestricted standpoint, I love Dynasty Warriors and have been routing armys since childhood and as a matter of fact Im hoping DW8 Empires will come out soon! lol, I hope that they introduce my favorite Ma Chao the SPLENDED!!! and his spear of JUSTICE!!!!! in a series 2!, either way this is great :) :) :).
Last edited by Gokubora 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )
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Jay in reply to Jerry@LL 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
@jerry look whos talking
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-Striku- 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
The problem though is max leveling since they are light attributes.
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JD@PG 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Let's have Gan Ning in this game, then I would be happy since he's my favorite character in Dynasty Warriors.
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N7 Garrus 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I'm so excited to start pumping +eggs into DQXQ and maxing her out, I'm going to be using her as my spike lead for a long time.
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Jerry@LL 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
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By Guest 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I feel like people are forgetting that this is a healer. Sure Horus has a great ult that can do 25x damage, but DQXQ is more flexible. Why not pair DQXQ with a your own valk? You get an easy 12x, but are able to spike 36x damage with a slime. Have your own DQXQ? You now have a 48x spike that puts ult Ra to shame. Anyone with a Healer team can instantly be comfortable with DQXQ especially with DQXQ's active. IMO, it outclasses Horus in every way and wouldn't be surprised if we see a surge of DQXQ builds for high tire evo material dungeons.
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Stick bros 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 
I have to sound really new asking this, but what's a slime?
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N7 Garrus in reply to Stick bros 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 
The king slimes grant one turn of 3x damage for a individual type, so blue-physical, green-balanced, red-attacker, yellow-healer, dark-devil (& draggie knight is dragon enhance).

They're hella-easy to get (minus draggie depending on your setup) and extremely useful for one turn of wicked I-want-dem-golden-eggs damage.
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Stick bros in reply to N7 Garrus 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Gotcha, thanks N7. I had looked at the king slimes, but never made the connection. I will say I don't like having to feed a king dragon to evo into king slime.
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Dr. Psaroo 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Also the RCV is like, way better. F/L Horus I would say is up to par with them but his RCV is not that good, and also DQXQ is great as a sub too due to the skill and going well with Metatron.
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By regi 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
I can see DQXQ getting an ultimate evo that's somewhat like Horus except with all the orb types. Additional 0.5x per orb type up to a max of 5x at all orb types. And some prong awakens? I mean, it should have that right?
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Firenmage 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
That's a good guess, I hope it'll be true :L
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igneus in reply to Firenmage 5 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
I can't really, because that'd go against their leader skill, so i don't think that their LS will change if they do get an ulti.
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By H❤鐡柱大法好 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
I really don't see why some of us have to compare Horus and DQXQ. Like, for me, I have both. I love Horus, absolutely he's my favorite and no one can take his place; but I also use DQXQ when I need the girls. And I'm happy, with both. If you like Horus, then go use Horus. If you like DQXQ then use the girls. Why comparing? What's the point? They both have their advantages and disadvantages. Then what? We use what we can get, and use what we like and see fitting. I say this because I'm getting really tired of comparing Horus and DQXQ. They are both great, they both have their places in the game. Done.
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dime 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
then stop comparing them and you don't have to deal with it......
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By C A R L 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Everyone's arguing about horus and other spike leaders and I'm just waiting for this to come out so it can be a sub for valk/Lmetatron teams
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By Matt 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Ultimate Evo plz... X5 matching any four orb types!!! :)
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Firecat 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Yea...no.

That would make her almost exclusively better than every other 5x spike lead because they have specific colors they have to hit.
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mid135@/r 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
i think they will add more awk skills
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TheDirty 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
It will most likely be similar to the other 3 Kingdoms Ult Evos. One evo with a superior leader skill but the same awokens and one with better awoken skills but the same leader skill.
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By Zgod 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I can't think of ulitmate evolve condition since her active pretty much ruin the "5 colors x5" skill.
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N7 Garrus 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Good point but maybe she'll get an ult that makes her a more flexible horus sub and they'll just let her skil trump Horus'.
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Nemesis 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
I really hope her Uvo goes in a different direction and adds something like x1,5 or x2 rcv under the same condition, not competing with the x5+ burst leaders, but allowing more utility in a different direction
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Drew 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
I will laugh in the face of people who +297 Horus when they get an ult one day with 5x attack when matching 5 colors including heal. Horus does not even have a sub type, and a terrible active and fairly bad awokens. This is one of my favorite monsters along with the Sonia's, and they are awesome (my opinion, I'll be happy to hear yours)
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By Skyknight 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Cobbling Bing, Google, and Wiktionary together:

Name: Twin Splendid Goddesses of Divine Awe, Da Qiao and Xiao Qiao (Putting aside that Guan Yu's the only personality of the time that I know of that came to be regarded as a divinity afterwards..."Divine Awe" was my best guess for 凛聖, even after checking the translations in Wiktionary; 凛 signifies shuddering with cold or fear.)
Active Skill: Devotion to Divine Secrets (the problem is 去私; using Wiktionary's definitions for the separate kanji, I get something like "departed secrets"...)
Leader Skill: Thoughtful Dance of Heaven's Peace
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By Squirtlove 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Rolled her on my alt account, now I have more fun with that one than my main.
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By Destros 3 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
OH ME GAWD, GUYS, DQXQ IS COMING OUT WITH A NEW AWOKEN DQXQ.
IT HAS A MAX MULTIPLIER OF 10X.
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By Bahamut 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
They passed on the wink tradition.
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Skyknight 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Um, take another look at Da Qiao's face...
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By RedBaron 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Angelion looks weird here
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By Bert 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I was gonna give up my Kushinada team for a blanced Leilan team when her Uvo's came out, but that'll probably be a bit. And since I just pulled DQXQ, it looks like I'm going healer spike.

But the way I see it though, it's like I'm giving up my first wife for two mistresses with a bonus dragon!
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Albireo 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
DUDE, are you me? No joke, I was always leading with a Kushi team, was going to move on to Balanced Leilan with the new ult evo, then I pulled these girls and haven't looked back.
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By dizzystan 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I rolled her earlier today during godfest. Anybody else roll her who are planning on using her as their main please comment or leave a pal id as I plan to use her as often as possible and would love to double dqxq dungeons.
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By kai@HNL 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
hmmmm... possibly she could give Ruka(blue healer girl) some kind of purpose. then again maybe not...
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kai@HNL 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
ofc this one is better than horus. Otherwise there would be no reason for us to spend $$$ on REM pulls. waste of time complaining, instead Im opening more friend slots so i can get a few in my list. (FREEBIE!)
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By Im not a 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Question, does this mean if you get 4 colors + a heart orb is fails to go off?
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jyo 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
if you get 4 colors + hearts, the leader skill WILL proc because of the 4 colors condition.
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By KrazyFox 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
It would be cool if the uvo horus also had the same activation for it's 4.5x or 5x attack. Meaning that if a F/L Horus team matched 5 colors OR 4 colors + hearts, it would activate the 25x. But seeing as how GungHo already JUST updated horus, I doubt they'll go back to make any changes in the near future.
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By Knight Fox 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
As far as these two are concerned if I pull them tomorrow great, if I get one the others cool. I have one of the strongest (arguably) burst leaders already in Kirin but I don't use her cause I'm too stressed about getting the combo to actually get it.

Truth be told the one that Gungho surprised me by not having is Zhuge Liang... since from what I've read of Romance of the Three Kingdoms, he is accredited for coming up with idea of dividing the land into three (Wu, Shu and Wei).

That and I was kind of disappointed when Diao Chan didn't show up but if they release a series 2 she will probably be there.
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By PAD Master 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
In other words they just added hearts as an attribute, to obtain the skill. Dont overthink this guys.
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By ★Liao24★ 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I don't see a huge difference with the evo look LOL. Just the winks and colors.
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By priest 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
hey i just rolled this during god fest but dont kno what to do with it. any ideas?? heres what im workin with... www.puzzledragonx.com/en/profile.asp?u=39215
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By thsisnate 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
dqxq + bastet is a really fun team!
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By Everfrost 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
This pretty much replaces Angelion for LMeta healer teams.
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DLish 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Not unless you like waiting 13 turns instead of 5 turns. She is a great sub (and leader) but they aren't really equivalent as orb changers.
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By Xx-B@$$-xX 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
does anybody know when they will receive an ultimate evolution?
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DLish 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
I wouldn't hold my breath. They are one of the newer god cards and they are already quite powerful, as evidenced by the fact that people debate if they are better than Horus's UEVO or not. I am sure they are on a long list of UEvos planned, but I imagine they aren't even close to the top.
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By secret 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Does DQXQ make a good Zhuge Liang sub?
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Vinny 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
L/W Zhuge makes a good sub for a Lmeta team with a dqxq, sun quan, valk, atm i have sandalphon... but as soon as that dang ult for Raphael comes out psssh all hells gonna break loose with this team.
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By Vinny 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
So i built a team around these girls and man it can put out some really good damage haha. Goes like this

DQXQ (mine has +138 atm)
Sun Quan (max lvl and awoken)
Night Lilith ult (lvl 80 Fully awoken)
Bastet (Low lvl atm =/ but awoken)
Lotus Echidna (lvl 88 Not awoken)
Friend DQXQ

Pop that Sun Quan on a boss and watch him get ripped up love it!

Also been saving up +eggs just for these ladies. Love that 5x drop rate in the Technical dungeons awh yeah. 20+s so far.. can't wait to max her out!
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By loztmyway 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Just pulled at godfest. Got to say loving them Had a friend who pulled one too built a team tried in endless corridors made it to hades with lvl 4 leaders as I played them it felt like I had used them before Horus with use of hearts so I guess great training monster for people have this and later pull a horus
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By Dusk 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
DXQ (l/w)
Izanagi (l/l)
Thor (l/g) - hope this comes out soon for NA
Takeminakata (l/f)
Valkyrie (l/g) /Verche (l/l) (preferably Verche)
DXQ (l/w)

- All colors except dark are covered
- Verche and DXQ's active to get rid of dark orbs
- Izanagi + Takeminakata for single spike (Shynee in comparison has 3x dmg but pitiful stats)
- Thor active for 1.5x light dmg for 3 turns
- Total 3 light row enhances
- Total 4 skill boosts (without skill ups, Thor's active is the longest at 13(17) turns)

Yes? No? at max levels without + eggs and awoken skills = 17595 hp and 1973 rcv. Fixes the low hp of a DXQ healer based team

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By Walrus 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
A more fair comparison would be DQXQ vs W/L Isis. Which one is better?
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By Loque 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Divine Sisters of the Qiao Qiao sisterhood.
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By Dean 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Please REM gods grant me this one and I will never beg you for anything every again, my healer team needs her.
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By cheungzhou 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
I was wondering how you guys would feel about this attacker, healer heavy based team:
Dqxq
echidna
athena
yomi
gzl
dqxq

I get the feel that this team probably does pretty terribly in dungeons requiring tanking hits. The focus around this team is simply high damage lol. Two of the characters are TPA based so that getting those proc and the x16 multipler results in x36 for two of the characters. Thoughts and improvements?
Last edited by cheungzhou 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 )
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regi 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
If you're not going to run Sun Quan or King Shynee, there's no point in making a healer team. Because two of your monsters are going to be healers anyway, I'd rather focus on getting more HP on my team rather than attack. 16x isn't exactly a heavy hitting multiplier, so might as well focus less on attack and more of taking hits + recovering. Of course, when the ult comes out and there's a change in the LS, there might be a different approach at making DQXQ teams.
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By Rookie 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Everyone here is talking about slime spiking, and I'm just sitting here with my DQXQ and Sun Quan
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By regi 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
GIVE ULT NOW
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By Danielle 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
My favorite :)
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By Demonwi 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Will we get an u evo for this in my lifetime?
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By JacWhisper 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
UVo announced! WOO!
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By Undómiel 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
They are splitting them up. I'm so upset
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Kirihiko 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
It's alright, their awoken evo will undoubtedly reunite them.
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By Dawn 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Ok. I've got an idea for a good team and I'd like to know what people think of it and what problems could occur from it's design. Leader and friend leader: DQXQ then the subs would be Venus(either healer form), king shynee, echidna, and W/D valk. I think it would work, but sadly I dont have the monsters to do it and cant test it.
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By Adamjc 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
i main with Divine Flowers DQ&XQ and haku friend me if you feel like it :) 335 863 315
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By King Spin 4 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
First ever descend win thanks to these girls.
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By nickjr 4 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
lol it's kinda funny reading the comments on this page now that the sisters' uvos are out xD especially given people's reactions to XQ's uvo, both before and after her LS tweak from the potential 25x damage to additional HP for healers
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By 1x1x1x1 4 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
So... which ult evo?
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By Vic's ⓅⒶⒹ1 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Just randomly pulled, normally I run Sakuya, Urd & Durga... I also have a fully evo'd (low lvl) L meta & attacker Ama so I'm thinking healer team? Any/all opinions are welcomed as for teams and which Evo to go with. Thanks
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DKnight 3 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
If you're using her as a sub on a healer team, go with the DQ Dragon/Healer uevo. XQ is more for either using her as a leader or on teams that boost Light God types (Athena for example).
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By slyvie 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
DQXQ active skill sucks though. why did they think that putting a orb changer skill for a leader that is easy enough to activate can be good for DQXQ? i mean it doesn't make sense at all.
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spikevg22 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
The problem with setting up the proc most of the time is that you'll have a whole bunch of one or two colors and the other ones you'll need to combo with are far apart.

The active skill works very well because all you need are 3 blues and 3 greens to make sure you proc the skill.

You'll end up with blue green yellow heal combo which be very easy to set up since many of the pieces will likely be put together. If you throw in another single orb changer, it makes any board easy to set up no matter the situation.
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hardsictic 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
It nukes red and dark orbs, leaving the board with green/blue/white/hearts. If you have those colors as your team, it sets up 4x and multiple combos with ease while giving you the option to stall by matching the unused colors.
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N7 Garrus 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I agree it seems frustrating because the double orb changer can mean that you screw yourself over on getting the x4, but it is a relatively versatile skill when not leader and great for teams that want offense and defense boosts.
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By Eitan 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
friend me I need more and my profile is www.puzzledragonx.com/en/profile.asp?u=42891
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By kiwiikat 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Page needs to be updated. I just got this from REM. (Yes, the evolved form.)
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By -Striku- 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
2 of my friends have her but me. Have mercy on me REM gods!!!
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By Vinny 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Ult please? Something like 4x atk when matching 4 colors or 3 colors and a heal up to 6x atk when matching 5 colors and a heal would be sweet. And a stat boost and awakenings would be beautiful =D
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By JD@PG 5 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Xiao Qiao: Hehaha I promise to do my best.
Da Qiao: I'm ready to take the fight to the enemy.
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By CatsemanSA 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
So much butthurt Horusi
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By Hell Boy 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
I have read through the previous posts regarding Horus vs DQXQ, it seems that no one consider perfect subs: Valkyrie vs Gigas.

Valkyrie (best sub for DQXQ)
Primary damage type - Light (good)
Healer type (good, match with the leader), can potentially spike x16 x3 with King Shynee, for dark dungeons, it's x96 (light over dark)
Adding one green colour (good, helps LS condition)
Breaking heart orbs into light orbs (good, helps primary damage)
High RCV (good)

However, Gigas (comparable sub for Horus)
Primary damage type - Red (good)
Physical type (bad, does not match with the leader)
Second color is Light (fair, not helping the F/L Horus)
Breaking heart orbs into red orbs (good, helping primary damage)
Negative RCV (very bad, consider trigger healing is very hard for Horus team already)


Since both the active skill for each of the leaders already implied the color for primary damage base; DQXQ team supposed go all the way light based damage and Horus team for fire based damage,
Most of the end game and hardest dungeons are dark based, therefore, DQXQ wins on dark dungeons. We are comparing a non-spiked x16 x2 = x32 (DQXQ) vs x25 (Horus) team for dark dungeons. Obviously DQXQ wins the end game scenario, on the other hand, Horus is suitable for the intermediate dungeons. On paper, Horus is better, when factoring in the color advantage, DQXQ is better. In general, DQXQ can attack and heal at the same time which and easier to trigger.
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By AK99ever 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Rest in peaches Egyptian spikers. Dq & xq FTW. Great stats, good active and easy 16k activate. In addition to that she is light with great awoken. So weekday descends prepare for a quick sweep
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By Isolated 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
well, good bye horus HELLO whatever ur name is (its in jap.)
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Gokubora 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Left: Miss Da Qiao the eldest sister and Sun Ce(Sun Quan's big brother) of the Wu Kingdom's wife.

Right: Miss Xiao Qiao the youngest sister and wife of Sun Quan's famed military general and strategist Zhou Yu.

I loves me some Dynasty Warriors, hope GungHo eventually does a series 2 featuring my man Ma Chao!!! lol ;).
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By FizzCake 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
It's better than Horus in almost every way possible lol. Has a Healer subtype other than God, those crazy awoken skills, better leader skill by far. The other downside is you may have to pack your own orb enhancer. Throw in Echidna and King Shynee and a random Dark/Wood (Tiamat or Fafnir or something) and you have yourself a ridiculous spike team with multiple row enhancements, and orb changer, and a slime spiker.
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By Lord Murky 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
What are the chances of me pulling this during the next godfest? (Greco-Roman, 3 kindgoms)
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By Albireo 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
X5 ULT EVO

MAKE IT HAPPEN, GUNGHO
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Nick|RDE in reply to kandjar 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
So basically ra's L/L Uevo... *facepalm*
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玉折@HG 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
People are lazy
DQXQ is 100% made for stability. Rule of GH is that in order to get power you need to sacrifice stability, meaning that IMHO DQXQ will never be able to cross 5x even if she gets an LS for all 6 colors. The less stable you make the monster, the more skill you need to run it, and the more reward you get. You can't have everything.
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Dr. Psaroo in reply to Nick|RDE 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Ra's Uvo has a higher multiplier, but it doesn't give a multiplier for 4 colors out of 6.
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Ben 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Soon
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玉折@HG in reply to Ben 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
totally called it, XQ uvo's gonna get 5x for 6 colors, up from 4x.
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Sanspai@PF in reply to kandjar 4 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
Let's not go juggler mode please.
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DLish in reply to kandjar 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
How about 4x when matching 4, 5x for 5, and 6x for all 6 orb types. It sounds OP, but 6x would be really hard to do and I expect her UEvo is pretty far off so the meta is likely to change by then. Someone has to knock Kirin off her spike team perch eventually. UEvo Kirin has 5x, 7 awakening skills, gravity, 1100 more health, and an arguably better subtype for spike team (physical to get enough health to survive a hit from bosses where needed).
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kandjar 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
I'd rather:
x4 when matching 4 color or 3 colors + heart and x7 when matching 5 color or 4 colors + heart :-)
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By nturtle 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 
Why does this monster exist when 4x combo monsters exist? Matching 4x colors is way mor of a pain in the butt, this guy seems pointless.
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Silver 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 
i am surprised to see someone complaining about matching 4x colors when it can be any 4 colors including heal orbs, which is a very easy activation
also, her awakening skills are very useful with the extended orb time to be able to activate the 4x easily and can be put into row enhancing teams also
she also has her healer subtype to be used in light metatron/valk teams and can be boosted with a king shinee for a 48x if leading two of these with other healer subs
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By Guest 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I see a lot of debate. Well let me tell you she IS better than Horus. Her active with her awakenings alone make her better. I am running a team full of multi skill turn reduction awakenings and can pop her skill every 3 rounds. With a friend that is only one round I have to do anything on my own. EASY spike lead.
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Alesund 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Skill reduction only applies when you enter then dungeon so it's not possible for you to use her skill every three turns.
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By olann 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
A good replacement for Siren in a Healer team. Now, if only they weren't REM-only...
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By D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
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Aqua in reply to D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
People who actually COMPLAIN because they have only a Horus deserve to be drown in salt.
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Josh0owa in reply to D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Horus is being surpassed, but not being made useless.
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Eej in reply to D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
The drawback is if you want to maximize damage you have to make a healer team, and a healer team needs a ton of HP eggs to take on the real tough Descends. Otherwise, you're just an easier to activate _regular_ Horus, a F/L Horus will be dropping 25x damage without having to worry about cooldowns just player skill.

So yes, much like how Physical Isis can burst for more damage than Horus, DQXQ can burst harder than Horus but they come with their own downsides. Also, the existence of a leader that does equal to Horus damage, with easier activation does not somehow invalidate the existence of previous monsters (Isis, Horus) as if suddenly they are weaker than before. 25x is still 25x.
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D4rkn3ss in reply to Gokubora 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Anubis, Okuninushi, and other multipliers have drawbacks to their activations: all 5 colors, 8+ combos, 6+ combos, increasing combos only after 3+ combos, 3 color activation but weaker multiplier, etc. DQ & XQ.... I don't see a drawback for them. Side by side, I'd say Horus could have an 80%+ activation, whereas DQ & XQ could have a 90%+ activation, for equal the damage! I have an Okuni, and a Karin, and an Isis and I respect each one to have their strengths and weaknesses. But wow... DQ & XQ have none, except the F/L ulti evo for Horus which isn't even completely fair to compare.
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boobles-7 in reply to D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Guys these leaders both have their ups and downs, but you should feel lucky if you have either a horus or this. Now before hand I am saying IT IS FAIR TO COMPARE A 7 star Horus to a 6 Star DQXQ. Why? because we are comparing which MONSTER IN GENERAL is better. There is no rule saying "you can't evo your horus or you have to keep it at 6 star form" ,and that would ultimatley result in you not making the most of your monsters. I will hand the 6 star and 5 star evolution spotlight to DQXQ, however either versions of Ult Evo'd horus blow DQXQ away, especially Fire and Light. However, In general I am going for Horus. And I have both these leaders(Just in different accounts.) They are both amazing, but there comes a point in the game where you can easily afford the cost, and do the dungeons required to hold, and evo Horus to F/L. So In the long run Horus would be a better pull, however for the begginers who aren't skilled at making combos, this is definitley a easy leader to use. DQXQ also trumps horus in Ancient Dragon Dungeons, and in Tri-Color. However as far as active skills go, I typically don't find much use for either of them, and sometimes DQXQ's back fires. As far as awakenings go, F/F horus's awakenings suck, and DQXQ's are way better. In F/L form the awakenings are a little better, however still not as good as DQXQ's. DQXQ's versatility is amazing, and can fit well into Valk teams/healer teams, while horus...not so much. However my conclusion is this. DQXQ and Horus are the two best leaders (in my opinion) and which one is better completley depends on the dungeon. For normal Dungeons Im saying Horus Wins, as well as any dungeons without heart orbs. However with special dungeons with team restrections and orb restrictions, I am saying DQXQ wins due to low cost and its versatile leader skill. The Verdict : Early In the game DQXQ is better. However Mid game to experienced players im going for Horus.
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Gokubora in reply to D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Horus isn't getting "shafted" at all LOL because at the end of the day he is a completely different build of monster with MANY different pros of his own(have you SEEN his red/light ulti!!!??? ;)). If the Qiao sisters making him useless were true then ANUBIS pretty much makes everyone else useless and obsolete LMBO and that couldn't be any more further from the truth!!! LOL

I have Okuninushi(4x dmg on 6+ combos aka universal spiker) and Haku(3.5x dmg when matching dark, red, and blue orbs in one atk) and STILL wouldn't mind getting myself a Horus for specific reasons as well LOL.

Every monster has its pros all we were doing was stating the pros of the Qiao sisters that's all, be thankful you own a Horus because I know guys who'd probably trade half of their whole collection just to get him :).
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Jin요한@PG in reply to D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I know how you feel because I use Horus myself however i don't think people are thinking about this DQXQ quite clearly. Her leader skill activates when 4 colors are matched or 3 colors and hearts. Think about her as a leader, you would still want a rainbow team and for her you would probably want every sub to be a different main color (or if you're ballsy enough, then make everyone main Light with a different sub color). Anyway, if you think she outclasses Horus because shes even easier to use than Horus because she has the 3 color/hearts option then i think you're giving her too much credit. Ok 3 colors and hearts thats cool, thats really easy, but what kind of damage are you going to put out? depends what colors you just matched and depends on who you have on your team; its safe to say you're not going to do a whole lot of dmg with only 3 colors. If you're already proficient at doing 4 color matches then why in the hell would you want this DQXQ over L/F Horus who has the occasional 5x? I'd rather have Horus, take a hit on those rare occasions where you don't have enough orb colors to do 4x, and then just keep blasting through because chances are you, 3orb/hearts aren't going to matter unless you have super low health as a team (which you shouldnt with F/L Horus teams) and you really need to clear the stage or get a better board of orb colors.

Active Skill changes 2 orb colors Dark and Fire to Light and Hearts. I see this as more of a "danger zone skill" which is also rendered close to worthless in Tri-color dungeons where DQXQ shines (unless you need a heal and your board is chalk-full of fire orbs). In regular dungeons or descendeds... you wouldnt ever want to change your orbs to heart orbs because you're reducing your damage output and you're killing two other orb colors while only gaining one color in the process (light). If your team is main Light with different sub colors (and a Valyrie to break the hearts that were made) then ok, thats not too bad but good luck to you if you run out of light orbs on the board in-between -.-

All in all, L/F Horus still has the upper hand. Like some of the other commenters have written, DQXQ seems to be a stepping-stone into the harder color combo-ers Horus/Ra. Honestly, 4 color comboing is NOT hard at all (unless, as i've said, you don't have at least 4 colors to match ; which only really matters if you're about to be OHKO'd by the boss but then DQXQ won't even save you there).
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Ace@PG 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
lol this guy >_>
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AndyK in reply to D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
That really cannot be true. Well, to start off, DQXQ does not have the firepower Horus has. The best party you can build with her is a healer party, just because of the increase of the Healers these days. However, FL Horus is completely different. It lets you go up to X25 with 5 colors. Now don't say 'use Ra is you want 5 colors'- Horus is good because you can ALSO make the 4 colors. This variation in firepower leads to some great versatility in your build. Furthermore, Horus has a 1800 attack stat- which goes over 2000 when infused with + eggs. That means with a decent combo with 5 colors, you can basically trim down about a million or so damage in one shot(with the subs, of course). Maybe in the future they will buff DQXQ even more, but thats not decided. Right now, DQXQ is a beginners guide to Horus, or a Rich man's L Meta.
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Jess in reply to D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
It's because "useless" is a BS term. When you use it, on horus for example, you disrespect every careful consideration and every investment people have towards them. It's obviously not -useless-, so why go all whiny about it?

Saying outright that "Horus is useless" is going to offend people. "It feels like my favorite leader has been made less special because this one is getting an equally powerful version of my leader's ability that is easier to activate!" wouldn't have gotten downvoted so hard.
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DLish in reply to D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
D4rnkn3ss... This is the dumbest thing I have read all week. Jerry@LL makes more sense than this and he purposefully tries to say stupid things. I hope for your sake you are just trolling because the alternative is really sad.
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-Striku- 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Simple, use em both as leaders.
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D4rkn3ss 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
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By TheWatcher 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
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-Striku- 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Keep your lewd fantasies to yourself!
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