Kirin of the Sacred Gleam, Sakuya stats, skills, evolution, location

No.1218

聖煌天の麒麟・サクヤ

God / Physical

7 ★

MP 5000 Cost 35

Lv	HP	ATK	RCV	Weight	Sell	Exp

1	1271	913	256	395	660	1575
99	3528	1370	384	755	65340	155925

*1 Experience gain bonus from same element
*2 Weighted Stat: HP / 10 + ATK / 5 + RCV / 3

Reduce 20% of all enemies' HP. Ignore enemy element and defense.

CD: 15 Turns ( 9 Turns at Lv.7 )

This card can be used as assist.

All attribute cards ATK x5 when attacking with Fire, Water, Wood & Light orb types at the same time.

HP +353	ATK +69	RCV +58	( Max Lv )
HP +452	ATK +93	RCV +102	( Max Lv & +297 )

Lv50

Grayed out Japanese cards

This card can be obtained by:
- Evolution from Kirin of the Aurora, Sakuya

Comment

By Theodor 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

JESUS SHE FINALLY GOT FEET!!!
(ﾉ´ヮ´)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

Psykios 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

Yeah, but those wedges though! They're like 9-inch heels! No wonder she flys, how could she even walk?

Xleonq in reply to -Striku- 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 )

i am Chinese and let me explain this

kirin in chinese call 麒麟,everybody call it weird creature because it dragon alike,body horse,shape like deer,everybody use as a good thing for changing your fate.

Fayren in reply to -Striku- 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 )

While the word "kirin" may share the meaning of giraffe in Japanese and is similar in Chinese, Sakuya's design is more likely based off of the chimera-like, mythical beasts called kirin/qilin. In western civilizations, they are often compared to a unicorn due to their symbolism and some similarities in appearance.

-Striku- in reply to Xleonq 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 )

Kk. I understand completely now. Sorry for those Kirin people who were offended by my comment. Whoops

TASTEEFIRE in reply to Xleonq 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 )

like the Kirin in "Monster Hunter"? ;-)

C 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

Still looks like stubs..

HUA雷@PG in reply to -Striku- 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 )

Actually, you weren't completely wrong. When European traders brought a giraffe to the court of the Ming emperor Yongle, they believed it to be a Qilin, as the spots were patterned like scales, and the body resembled a horse. Also, the Japanese word for Qilin, which is Kirin, is the same as that of giraffe. Thus, Kirin's actual art and concept was that of the Chinese Qilin, but the actual translation (as PaD is a Japanese game) may be connected to the giraffe itself, as it was mistaken for the mythical being Qilin/Kirin

The Qilin is also depicted as being shrouded in flames, so I stand by my opinion that she should have a L/F UEvo

Last edited by HUA雷@PG 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 )

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regi in reply to TASTEEFIRE 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

That's actually a good comparison for once. Good on you m8.

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Gaiou in reply to Mofo 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

Learn how to not be a racist pr1ck also go back to school and hopefully learn how to be a decent human being.

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By Fandelix 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

Wow .5 seconds and feet 10/10 would get orb trolled again

By roflcopt0r 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

http://imgur.com/AOc6rMx

Sebcas 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 )

Lol

By bunny 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 )

Hmm why is Kirin the only one with one ult?

Kitt 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 )

Well other Chinese gods use 3 orb LS - so they choose 2 sub-orb element as sub of each Ult. In Kirin case, it got 4 orb LS - so they can either have 3 Ult for each sub-orb element OR 1 Ult for main-orb element. Since kirin already stronger than other, so giving it 3 Ult is unfair for fan of other chinese god.

Last edited by Kitt 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 )

Doofy 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 )

Been wondering that too. Although she got her Ult Evo a bit before the other Chinese gods it seems weird that she's the only one without two (especially now with Byakko and Fagan getting two just this past update.)

巨人に食われた学生 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 )

I think it may have to do with the fact that you need the gold keeper for her UltEvo. All the other Chinese gods don't need one to UltEvo.

Brak 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

With NONE of the Chinese gods having an ultimate with a healer sub-type, you'd think one would be coming for Kirin since she's the healer color.
I can't imagine they'd keep it where that one-time-only REM monster (Christmas Kirin) would be the only way to get a healer chinese god...

By Guhimo @/r 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

I wish she would gain a second ult evo ; _:

By Walnut 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 )

Is she going to get a second Ult Evo like her other Chinese sisters?

By Chandee 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

I was able to pull Kirin early on as a scrub. I thought having her would be op, but as I ran my dungeons and decends I found that it was too hard to get the 4 elemental orbs, she then became a sub with a quick grav. After months and months of playing I decided to give kirin another chance at being a lead. To my surprise everything was clear and easy to match the elementals now, except the turns with orb trollery. She is now back on my main leaders. I do not recommend her to new players due to the fact that matching orbs takes alot of time and practice. What really helped me was the egyptian goddess Isis, with constant usage of her I got more comfortable with my orb manipulations and seeing which colors I need. The Kirin team in which I am running is rem heavy but it works for me.

Kirin of the Sacred Gleam, Sakuya
Survivor of Krypton, Super Girl
Warrior Rose, Graceful Valkyrie
Awoken Minerva
Crimson Lotus Mistress, Echidna
Kirin

Supergirl is there mainly for my boss rounds, or when I fall short of water orbs. I mainly have to atleast save enough fire, and grass orbs in the middle of the board when I use Supergirl's active. Valk and echidna is a no brainer, Minerva is a great addition to my team with her amazing stats and in case I have too many dark orbs as well as the def break she adds on which makes sweeping floors a breeze. with rare occasion of orb trollery this is my ideal Kirin team.

Last edited by Chandee 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

By slyvie 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

why did they make her a physical? it would make more sense if she's a dragon type instead.

By Z-Bullets 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )

is Heracles a good sub for uvo kirin team?

Kitt 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 )

He is very tempting as a team member, for his active work on many sub of Kirin team, namely Verche, Apollo, Hera-is, Izanagi, Angelion, and Sakuya herself. However his active take so long to charge (unless max skill) so it not work well for sweep team.

MY OPINION: His active is useful, but you probably clear the dungeon before it cool down is ready.

Last edited by Kitt 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 )

By Guest 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

So should I uvo Kirin for the extra Physical type? Is that what everyone's going for?

奈央 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 )

Everyone is probably going for the double light attacks.

Minori 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 )

The extra awakenings are the most important reason to uvo. Skill boost, orb enhance, and time extend are all extremely helpful. Having Bubblie for physical burst is nice in some situations, but it's somewhat limited in effectiveness since her best subs (e.g. Valk, LMeta, Echidna, Sun Quan, Kushi) tend to be healer rather than physical.

By Greg! 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 )

MY QUEEN!

By rccab 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

I have always had trash luck until I pulled kirin. I'm glad I can start new mythical descended rather than having to run ghetto Lucifer all the time.

By Prototype 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 )

Just pulled her. I've wanted him for such a long time now, but I realize that she isn't worth it when I already have a maxed U&Y. Doesn't seem like she can touch the destructive power of those guys. And as a sub my +297 Valk is more usefull.

Take a seat Sakuya

Kitt in reply to Pichu 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 )

Saying U&Y is "far" superior is going too far. I still maintained that they are at SAME LEVEL. Their play style is almost twin-like, they are both high attack sweep team. The only differences is U&Y is more attack orient, while Kirin is more defence orient. And there is reason for this:

U&Y:
-It NEED to have higher attack, because it can't afford to take hit from boss. (i.e. kill before being kill)
-With 'change the world' + orb changer + 2 pronged = obviously higher 1 turn attack
-While being healer type make it easier to stall on non-boss floor.

Kirin:
-It DONT NEED such overkill attack, because you can afford to take some damage (i.e. use as many x25 as possible)
-With High hp + 'menace' = usually at least 5 turns on boss before you get kill.
-With two 20% gravities = you got 5 turns to kill 64% of boss hp.
-if use high RCV sub like Odin, Echidna, Valk, it very easy to recover and stall on non-boss floor.

Of course U&Y can also bring echidna, but they just bad compatibility.

In term of Risk and Return (Higher to Lower)
-Anubis, Kushinada, Ra, U&Y, Kirin,......., DQXQ, etc
It all depend on your judgement of how much Risk it worth taking.

Last edited by Kitt 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 )

Pichu in reply to Kitt 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 )

I'm a U&Y user with U&Y, BLodin, Yomi, D.Meta, and Vector Finn.

It's true that Kirin teams can focus more on light damage, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is the best option. There are ups and downs to it.

I agree with @??@pf, Orb changer >> Grav. Grav is useful against monsters like Keeper Of Gold, but I can just use all my orb changer skills to kill it instead.

Who needs 2 Kirins for 1 sec of extra moving time when you have yomi for that? Plus, yomi has Change the World! The extra resists is useful-ish, not many monsters do those skills, but it's nice to have those resist in handy.

You guys have high hp, but do you have the rcv to recover all of it? I guess kirin users can tank 1 or 2 boss atks or a few mob atks, but if you can't recover it then it's somewhat pointless.

Yes, Echidna is not useless on your team, but who needs her when U&Y teams can dish out high damages!

Since U&Y finally got their uvo (yay), they can dish out really high damages. I can do the double TPA to kill the weaker mobs if I dont have the necessary orbs to do a x25 and when I need to get serious, I use yomi. As of now, only 2 of my monsters benefit from TPAs, my U&Y and Finn, so I can't use it to the maximum, but I can definitely hit over 2m per monster with TPAs. If I struggle or freak out, I can revert to row enhances. Yes, the bad side about TPAs is that they must be exactly 4 orbs in a row, but with time it can become easy to master. U&Y have decent HP, but they do have high rcv.

From my opinion and from what I see from my team, U&Y is far superior than Kirin.

Firecat in reply to Pichu 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 )

Whether one is better than the other is still up for debate. Kirin teams are actually rather known for their high RCV so yea...they can tank and stall quite effectively. Not being able to see the value of using Echidna on a SPIKE TEAM THAT REQUIRES SPECIFIC ORBS is a bit suspect anyway. Echidna is a good way to mitigate this really annoying thing called Orb Trolling...you've probably been killed by it several times.

I don't really care who is better...I like my Kirin and I'm sticking with it. The awakenings are something I like better because I really hate the way TPA works anyway. I think one of the best things about Kirin is the simple fact that Light has no weaknesses though. I can run Hera-Ur just as well as I can run any number of other dungeons where as U&Y have to get specific subs just for those instances. They both have their place.

??@PF in reply to Kitt 5 years ago ( 7.1.2 )

Orb Change >> Gravity, gravity is usually only brought when you need more damage than what orb changers and enhancers can give

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Kitt 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 )

I have to disagree. Kirin and U&Y are certainly on same level BUT Kirin probably slightly better for following reason:

-Kirin team can focus on light element damage

-Gravity with 15 cool down is better active skill (In fact it probably one of the best skill)

-Awoken skill have +.5 sec and many resistance

-High HP team (needed in order to stall for skill in descend dungeon)

-Echidna not useless in the team

Further more, if u have +297 Valk then it probably worth it to max Kirin, since Valk work very well in Kirin team.

PS:you also have another choice to keep Kirin in 1st form to use it on Xuanzang Descend (20 cost restriction)

Last edited by Kitt 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 )

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Stan 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 )

Sakuya is WAYYYYYY better then U&Y. She came to me in gala of light on my 3rd REM spin, we were meant to be together

By Linderwood 5 years ago ( 7.1.2 )

I spent several stones to get a Gold Keeper.
It may not be the wisest decision to be so impatient but I'm happy to have physical Kirin. The King Bubblie burst allowed me to clear several descends that had been troublesome beforehand. Those few stones really sped up my progression.

Edit: Ahah! Months later and I'm able to 0-stone Tues. Mythical!

High HP (17k), ~1/10th HP in Recovery, Hera Gravity and carefully stalling so as not to trigger a 25X accidentally make it a fairly easy if not slow and nerve-wracking clear.

If you're trying for a KoG, good luck to you! Be sure to prepare beforehand.

Last edited by Linderwood 4 years ago ( 7.8.1 )

By Aramis 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

Let's get physical! Physical! Physicaaaaaal!

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dime 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 )

i wanna get physical
let's get into physical
let me hear your body talk, your body talk
let me hear your body talk.............

By Vick@PG/ID 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

Getting orb-trolled? Mastering/Mastering/Tengu/Bubblie. You will have 7 skill-boosts, so you can do turn-one orb-refresh. Twice.

By Hudson 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )

Some ideas for Ult Kirin teams

Ult Kirin
War God of Metal, Takeminakata(Cd: 10 farmable)
King Bubblie(Cd: 12 farmable)
Top Droidragon(Cd: 22)
Solar God of Heaven's Bow, Apollo(Cd: 9 farmble)
Ult Kirin(friend)

18585(hp)/7951(atk)/2164(rcv)
-6skill turn, 20% fire,40% light

Ult Kirin
Thor, the Wielder of mijolnir
King Bubblie
Top Droidragon
Solar God of Heaven's Bow, Apollo
Ult Kirin(friend)

17670(hp)/8130(atk)/2023(rcv)
-6skill turn, 40% light, 2 light row enhance

Kirin LS + Thor AS + Bubblie AS + Droidragon AS + friend's LS
Eg.: 1000(damage)*5*1.5*3*5= 110250 (light damage)

Or

Kirin LS + Bubblie As + Droidragon + a lot of light orbs(6% each) + friend LS
Eg.: 1000*5*3*5=75000+(750*(6*13)= 133500 final damage (light damage)

What do you guys think about these teams?

Last edited by Hudson 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )

Ken★Kirin 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )

I don't think Thor and Bubblie's skills can be used together. If it's a short dungeon and if Boss takes long time to hit and has lots of hp or defense, the top build sounds great. However, if you get orb trolled, you don't have anyone like Echidna to back you up. I've tried testing the bubblie enhance through Endless Corridors and with many light orb matches, I find Apollo just by himself usually make 700k~2 million and on average I would say 1 Million Lt damage. If you add Ult Kirin, that's already 3~4 Million damage we're looking at. After using Kirin's mini gravs, I don't think many bosses could survive that. My suggested build would be something as follows:

(LF) Ult Kirin,
(S) Ult Apollo, Ult Valk, Ult Echidna, King Bubblie
With this, all awoken, it would allow Ult Valk's skill to be used from the very beginning and if all max skilled, You can have all skills ready in 7 turns. And if it's not enough damage at Boss, you should be able to x25 atk again with many Lt orbs by using Valk and thanks to Echidna's Menace.

Ultimately, it all depends on the dungeon. You could replace Ult Valk with Tengu if you want to have all skills ready earlier for short dungeons. You could replace Echidna with Mastering or Takeminakata if Boss has immunity against Menace. You could have Top Droidragon if the dungeon has many jamming/blinding skills.

Ken★Kirin 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )

The multipliers may look great on paper, but if you don't have enough Lt orbs it's pointless.
For example if you have only one Lt orb match, with the rest being the other colors, multiply that by x75 (along with Lt/Fr orb enhance) won't do much damage as you may think.
Then if the Boss hits 30k+ the next turn, you're done for.
Therefore, you use Echidna to adjust the board so you'll have plenty of Lt orbs to rack up the Lt damage.
Also, keep in mind that making separate Lt orb match increases the Lt attribute damage significantly.(ex. while activating LS, include 3x2, 3x3, or 3x4, etc. Lt orb match)

Athena is a great sub.
(LF) Ult Kirin
(S) Ult Apollo, Athena, Izanagi, Izanami
Team above has GREAT Lt damage. While activating LS, make multiple light orb matches and it'll rack up the Lt damage, along with God enhance x2, and Athena's Lt/Wd orb enhance would easily rack up approx. 6 million Lt damage total.
However, again, this is only great on paper. If you get orb trolled, Izanami is your only support. You also won't get enough skill boosts to activate Izanami on first floor if you get orb trolled there as well. Unless you have all +297, Athena has 0 RCV, so it will drag down your recovery rate during battles. Having high RCV may be crucial if you want to stall to have your active skills ready.

Don't get me wrong though. I'm just saying some of those builds are powerful, but extra risky and if that's the way you want to go, that's totally fine. I just like to balance out my offense and defense, because using Kirin is already risky for the main reasons of getting orb trolled.

Hudson in reply to Ken★Kirin 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )

Yeah.... Thor and bubblie cant be used together... I've just tried I&I with bubblie

Hudson 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )

I choose top droidragon because his ability is better than tengu's or ogres's abilities

Hudson in reply to Ken★Kirin 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )

I liked your team, but valkyrie is a healer, so she won't be able to get x75 and she isn't very necessarely in this team because apollo already changes heart orbs to light ones.

And i agree echidna is very good if you get orb trolled, but she also doesn't have the physical sub type/type, and her awoken skills isn't that good compared to thor's row enhance or takeminakata fire orb enhance and active skill

And if apollo hits so hard alone, he would do tons of damage with takeminakata AS...

X25 damage is great, x75 is awesome but x75 + 6% per light/fire orb is perfect... Every descended dungeon will be easy with it

I never had an spike team because i am still rank 87, but i realize how hard the descendeds dungeon are, so, how i already had a kirin, i'll take that chance and do one of the most powerfull team in the game....

Last edited by Hudson 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )

Hudson 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )

Another good sub for kirin team is athena...
She has great atk(1901) and her ability is enhance light and green orbs.
Valkyrie fits with her

Walrus 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 )

I am running Ult Evo Kirin with my G/L Bearded Guan Yu lead (ATK 3.5X REC 1.5X to Physical) and works fantastic for those instances where I am unable to do all matches due to lack of orbs. Granted it isn't the same Dmg as if running dual Kirin leads but it makes a huge difference in survivability and I find 17.5X or (with King Woodsie active) 52.5X can destroy any boss.

By Isolated 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

curiosity r the other Chinese gods going to get an ult evo?

ProRay298 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

I don't see why not. Personally I cannot wait for an ultimate Karin to be released

Chaore 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

It's unannounced, but very possible since egyptian got them. It may be a very long time still since Kirin only got hers because of popularity vote.

fdsa啊啊 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )

She got Ultimate Evolution because the voting that was hold in Japan, so many people like her!

By aszma 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

Any knew team ideas with the added physical typing? Im thinking we could utilize King bubblie, Tengu, the Ultamite Ogres, takeminakata, and Blue odin for some insane damage and 8+ skill boosts making a very fast and heavy hitting team.

Jess 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

It would be immensely powerful - though difficult to manage I imagine, you'd be at the mercy of orb trolling even moreso than current kirin teams with orb changers...

By b.wakz@808 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

Are the other four awoken skills worth the tamadras?

Kopteff 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

last 2 are pretty useful i think

GenMaximus in reply to Kopteff 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

Correction, the last two are the most useful not just "pretty useful", and there are 3 more awoken skills, not 4.

Last edited by GenMaximus 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

By Foutrelle 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

@archangel: I have in mind kirin-B.odin-Shiva(R/B)-asgard (tengu/heracles)-bubblie-kirin.
But personnaly I'll love Karin-G.Odin-B.Odin-L.metatron-Shiva-Karin... Amazing awoken capabilities and crazy stats/skill overall.

Last edited by Foutrelle 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

By C 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

Can we have all Chinese gods ult evo pls??

By atog 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 )

I am sad because i don't have her, she looks COMPLETELY BROKEN. and Horus - my god all along - didn't get an upgrade even remotely close to what she gets.

By Lokamp 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )

...why is everybody here going nuts for feets? Seriously, what an odd fetish...

Kalani 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

Real talk: I love feet but I don't think it's a fetish thing. They're just making fun of her first evos having what appears to be stumps at the end of her legs. (she actually did have feet, they're just angled right toward the camera, making them hard to distinguish)

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Stan in reply to Kalani 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 )

NO my 1 true waifu will not be made fun of. Well i love noah and kirin

By Foutrelle 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

ETA April 14th for us?
I'd love it !

By AC@PG 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

God, I really wish Gungho added a little to the leader skill like light, wood, water, fire and heart orbs deal 6X attack. Overall, she's even more amazing than her last evo.

By Marshall 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

Was thinking this team complete end game with max skills +eggs etc.

Kirin
Apollo
Heracles or Parvati ( edit: numbers change with Parvati but would choose her over Heracles)( I know it doesn't stack but good green stat stick with yellow sub)
Orochi
King bubblie
Kirin

26,205 hp ( max up with plus eggs and factoring awoken)
3556 rcv (with eggs and awoken)
Skill leader -6 the other awoken stats you can do)
With Orochi skilled up( hard to do without a dungeon for him) would be down to a manageable 14. 6 attempts at the boss with Kirin is more than plenty.

Downside possible orb troll.

Your thoughts?

Last edited by Marshall 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

Marshall 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

With the Parvati build with maxed out eggs etc.

Hp:25,170
Rcv: 3,836

Parvati brings better awoken skills plus is a good staller so you don't hit 25x ( unless triple blue Skyfall) good for heal moments and low skill and easier to skill up to stall for orochi.

By Kal/r 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

What about:

Kirin
Echidna
Apollo
King bubblie
Kitty Shywoodie
Kirin

All hit physical type and color. Kitty's orb changing skill could be useful for a heal, but unfortunately no heart breakers to take advantage of it. I'm having a hard time imagining top droiddragon since his skill would be essentially useless from cooldown. Why are there no good physical green monsters!

Absolute Zero Hrungnir could be another option instead of Kitty, physical type and a decent active skill. No idea when he would become available tho.

Last edited by Kal/r 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

By Lucent 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 )

The Best of Damage multiple Leader in P&D. I surely say she is the most popular leader in Jp Server. Now my friend list has at least 10 ult evo kirin and I've still met new ult evo kirin friend so much. with her great status, leader skill, awoken skill & active skill plus the last one, she is so cute & beautiful. who don't fall in love with her? exactly, I fall and too deepppp

Bryggyth 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 )

Personally I think ultimate Fire/Light Horus is better...
Rarely gets orb trolled for 16x attack, and can often get 25x attack.
Kirin gets orb trolled often for getting 25x attack, and has nothing to fall back onto.
For example, with my personal orb-troll percent calculator based on a random number generator I coded myself Horus gets orb trolled about 51% of the time for 25x attack, while Kirin gets about 42% of the time, while Horus only gets 1% to 2% for 16x

In 100 turns based on that you could calculate it to this:
Horus: 49 x 25 + 49 x 16 + 2 failed turn
Kirin 57 x 25 + 75 x 1 with a physical team + 42 failed turns
Horus: 2009 total
Kirin: 1500 total

So personally I'd choose Horus...

Just my opinion though. Maybe with some orb changers you could get Kirin's chances of orb trolling down to only about 35% or even 30%, in which case it would be a max of 1800 with a physical orb changing team I'd estimate.

But it is your choice.

kadian1365 in reply to Bryggyth 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 )

I like Horus' easier activation too, but even on Descends you typically don't have to sweep EVERY TURN. Players account for turns they need to set up a board for bigger combos and stall for skills. And on the odd dungeon you DO need to sweep every turn, sometimes 16x won't be enough anyway.

Consider the enormous additional value of Sakuya's ability to take ~1 million HP off the top of big bosses, Physical type burst, and much better overall stats and awoken skills, versus the bizarre anti-synergy Horus' active skill has with his leader skill, and we conclude Sakuya is clearly the better monster.

Now, I believe Horus is still a top 5 monster for the unmatched combination both high reliability and power (potential unknown DQXQ ult notwithstanding), but Sakuya may be the very best of them all (for non-IAPers).

Lucent in reply to Bryggyth 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 )

Yeah... If we talk about orb-Erasing, Maybe Horus is better than Sakuya (Just around 4 elements to activate, right?) to reach 5X in many situation. But You CANNOT take it easy on Sakuya (Absolutely, doesn't mean she want only 4 elements like Horus but she NEED 5 elements so it means you always get 5X or nothing if you can ;) but when we talk about other status or skill like Active skill & Awoken skill, Sakuya is better (for me, i prefer dance as a little gravity than Orb Enhance xD)

but however, in my opinion; i choose sakuya bcs she is so cute...

FYI: Now i'm planning about a Double one true god team. Both Horus & Sakuya will silence when face a 100X XD

By SquidKid 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 )

Yay, legs! And all it took was an evolution and an ultimate evolution...
Victory?...

By Apokolypse 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 )

Boooo... why do I keep getting 2 of every extremely useful god? It's only useful when you've got 1. 2 are pointless. What am I going to do with 2 kirin? (Hopefully they'll come out with another ultimate evo)

I have a Q, why do people focus so much on making a team out of let's say in kirin situation physical? I understand that some monsters give physical a boost of some sort but typically that's if they're leaders. Do I not know of a boost obtained by having a team of all of one type of card?

Kitt 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 )

There is a use for 2 Kirin:
- max 1st Kirin and use it normally
- keep 2nd Kirin in basic form to use it as leader for Xuanzang Descend (20 cost restriction)

PS: Of course this also apply to U&Y with 20 cost in basic form

Last edited by Kitt 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 )

DailyGrind 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 )

Typically you stack all of one type on a team to take advantage of a king slime's active and one-shot a boss. There are other actives that you might do that for as well (Lu Bu on a Devil team, for example), but mainly it's for the slimes.

In Kirin's case, you would stack all Physical types and put King Bubblie (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=685) on the team so that you could one-shot a boss with x75 attack.

I have actually found that going the all Physical route with Kirin leaves me with no stalling power (Physical types have low RCV), so I'm experimenting with stacking God types instead and using Heracles for my main active. I'd use Izanagi instead of Heracles if I had him.

Last edited by DailyGrind 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 )

dime 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 )

so first off, you can keep the second kirin for a lower cost restrictions dungeon and if it ever comes out with a second ult evo you can then start to level it up if you wish, but i doubt it'll ever get another one since the one now works perfect for her and she is far superior to the other chinese gods in my opinion

secondly, you need to get a king bubblie started if you haven't already. the active is 3x attack for physical cards, but is only a one round active so use it wisely after you set up a board and have used your orb changers if needed. with a good board and combo multiplier you can OHKO almost all final bosses in the game with the exception to a few of course

By Ishimaky 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 )

How about: kirin
Lzl, ech, sun quan, valk?
Combo with 4 light orbs for lzl tpa
2x delay and a burst with sq and valk.
I dont have lzl but i use gzl and it still works good.
Rem heavy tho

By Nick|RDE 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 )

Least revealing of the Chinese gods, still the best

By regi 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 )

I just got Kirin. Should I worry about putting orb changers in my team or stick with the staples? I sometimes have a hard time getting all 4 types activated.

dime 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 )

if you're a decent orb clearer and know how to set up the board decently you really don't need to worry about it. i have valkyrie and verche on my team both are light orb changers which help for final boss ohko, but aren't really necessary for me to clear the dungeon most of the time. now that being said i have been saved by them a few times when i got orb trolled so it's really how comfortable you feel in your abilities to clear the board. if you're bad at it, i def. suggest you going with orb changers.

By Kevin@PG 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 )

Is Kirin ever going to get another ult like the other chinese gods? Not complaining about her first one.

Kerry 5 years ago ( 7.1.2 )

highly doubt it

By Rookie 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 )

The size of that hairdo makes me uncomfortable.

By StaticG 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

I'm curious as to how good this team would be
Leader (of course):
Kirin of the Sacred Gleam, Sakuya
Subs:
Survivor of Krypton, Supergirl
Gigas the Great/Solar God of Heaven's Bow, Apollo
Peach Garden General, Guan Yinping
King Bubblie
Friend Leader:
Kirin of the Sacred Gleam, Sakuya

I have some of the stuff for this team, and I am wishing to get Kirin from the player's choice god fest that will eventually happen. At some point I need to get something better than Supergirl.

The rcv and hp should be good as they are all physical giving plenty of hp, and Guan Yinping and Supergirl giving a nice amount of rcv. There is Supergirl to give you light and water orbs and Gigas for fire orbs. Guan Yinping is there for extra damage from the enhances and is wood for Kirin's leader skill. Also, all of them are physical so they benefit from Bubblie.

The only issue is dark orbs messing the board up when using Gigas. Gigas can be replaced with Apollo to get rid of them but cause an abundance of light orbs (which can be a plus). However, it result in fire and wood orbs needing to be in the centre of the board, as Supergirl's active will get rid of the ones on the side. Also, if Apollo is used Guan Yinping's active loses effectiveness. I think the only other concern is a lack of skill boosts, but the goal was to get more rcv to stall.
It depends on how risky you want to get with Gigas being a little riskier.

If you do not mind losing rcv Decisive General, Zhang Fei would replace Guan Yinping perfectly, as he is also physical and gets rid of dark orbs. Aquaman could replace Bubblie, but I didn't get him, so he is not in the list above.

tl;dr Can use Apollo instead of Gigas or Supergirl, Zhang Fei instead of Guan Yinping, Aquaman instead of Bubblie, and still do well. Zhang Fei and Gigas together gives poor rcv and there is no delay (Echidna or w/w Orochi), using stuff with more rcv adds risk.

By gummyapple 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

Is there any reason to have 2 of these? I'm not sure what to do with a second one.

Also, for a Kirin physical team, would Gigas be better or King Mastering for the fire slot?

Last edited by gummyapple 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

♫ yoshi 🎶 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

Personally, I don't normally run Sakuya (I use Kali) but I would much rather have a 6 turn board refresh than Gigas. It's not a 100% guarantee but Mastering can get you out of an orb troll and can give you hearts if you really need it. Also getting more fire orbs isn't going to do any good when only 1~2 team members are fire. Echidna is also really good for the fire spot (unless you really need the hp).

Now with that being said, King Bubblie has horrible stats and, in most cases, can only be used once per dungeon. So instead of going full physical, I would suggest going light heavy when you can get the subs. Using Valk or Verche will give you roughly 2x attack since you are doubling the amount of light orbs, as well as get rid of the colors you don't need. Using both (or Apollo) will give you ~3x (usually ends up to be a lot more). Also, at 5 turn CD, you can probably use Valk and Verche at least twice in the dungeon (at mid boss and boss). Sakuya also has mini gravity so I doubt you'll be needing any more damage than that.

Last edited by ♫ yoshi 🎶 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

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Light@PF 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

For a Physical Kirin team, I think Gigas would be better. Higher HP, 5 turn heartbreaker along with Valk, and a solid amount amount of attack. rcv will be a small hassle since two Kirins can supply plenty of rcv when properly leveled.

By Albegas 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

I just got a Sakuya and was wondering if a team like this would work:
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=1218.99.1.0.0.0.7..810.99.1.0.0.0.3..831.99.1.0.0.0.9..390.99.1.0.0.0.4..685.50.1.0.0.0.2..1218.99.1.0.0.0.7

Now that Top Droidragon have his awakenings you are basically immune to Poison, Jammers and Blind, 40% chance to avoid Skill Lock, 80% chance of get enhanced light orbs, 5 skill ups and 1 second of extra movement.

On paper looks really good.

Firecat in reply to Seeds / PG 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

I swear you people are spoiled. Calling Kirin a weakened spike team when very very few leads can even remotely touch her damage much less exceed it makes me boggle.

As for the team...you need an orb changer. You need one badly. Valk is a good farmable one.

Albegas in reply to Firecat 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

Would 1 orb changer really make a difference when you depend of matching 4 different colors simultaneously?

Firecat in reply to Albegas 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

Yes it does. Kirin requires you to not only make the LS match but also leave extra R/B/G's and clear hearts and darks all at once to make it more difficult to get orb trolled.

You can technically focus Kirin in any direction you want damage wise by using orb changers for that purpose but since Kirin is a light/light card focusing primarily on light damage just makes the most sense.

Just for reference sake the generally accepted best Kirin team available right now is Kirin/Apollo/Valk/L.Meta/Echidna/Kirin. Notice how you have two light orb converters there?

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Seeds / PG 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

I think it's creative, but from what I have seen Kirin team's are supposed to be made up oF light bursts (like a weaker LKALI). A King Bubblie might seem to find it's place in your lineup because of the 3x Physical active, but sorry to say a two-prong or orb changer would be a better idea. Always remember, Kirin teams are more CONSISTENT, WEAKENED,SPIKE TEAMS! :)

By Joshua x 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

Maybe.......
Kirin, LZL, L Kali, Athena, and a spike or delay depending on the situation.
Two gravities, six TP, two orb enhances, a board refresh, and what ever your wild card is.

Total luxury build I know but could be fun:)

By alexbomb41 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 )

Anyone think i should replace my green/red leilan for her

By Jurry 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

Is Apollo a good sub for kirin teams? Or whats better?

By XCWarior 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

Just pulled her... or her first form. I'm guessing based on comments I probably should start building her up to be a leader?

By StriderHLC 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

How do we feel about Sakuya as a Sakuya sub? She's got decent stats and it's another gravity, although it restricts what you have as subs...

I'm thinking something like:
- Sakuya (lead)
- Sakuya
- B/R Siegfried
- AZ Hrungir/CoO Heracles/GGY/GYP/ some other partially-green Physical/Ult Light Valk
- King Bubblie
- Sakuya

Light Valk doesn't synergize with the rest super-well, though making light orbs is always a good thing, and I think you'd be hurting for RCV without her. You've also only got one big nuke, which could be a liability in some of the dungeons with a bunch of tough encounters in a row...

- HC

Last edited by StriderHLC 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

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Firecat 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 )

Kirin is kind of trashy as a sub. She's probably the worst 25x card in terms of sub usage. Honestly you're better off running Echidna (you should be running Echidna in a Kirin team almost 100% of the time) than having another 20% gravity.

Unless you're dead set on running a physical Kirin team and using King Bubblie you probably shouldn't run that team. Kirin does enough damage that she really doesn't need the 3x enhance from the bubblie...it's over kill. You're pretty much stuck doing sub optimal damage on every round you aren't using the Bubblie damage.

By Cookie Mon 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 )

Kirin teams are really good I got Kirin, and she is one of my main leaders. Super good for descended dungeons.

By Minori 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 )

Orianna needs a buff.

By spin2win 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 )

Will she ever get a power creep like L/L Ra *a single tear drops*

By epharian 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 )

LEVEL 93 UEVO KIRIN!

Thank you snow globe dragon. Kirin enjoyed the feast, and is nearly fully. She just needs some shiny Pengdras for dessert.

And LOTS of + eggs.

and a few tamas just for good measure.

By Talonus 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 )

A few months ago I pulled 2 level 30 Kirin from the REM during a God-fest. After reading her I thought "Meh, not gonna bother using her", as I already have an Isis and I was not used to matching orbs at the time. After learning to match orbs better using Isis. One day I decided to give Kirin a try. Kirin is now my main lead. I have cleared every Descended Dungeon that has come along since. My Isis team sits on the bench most of the time and I rarely even use other teams anymore. (Also had to increase my box size to house my new drops from the descended runs.) Anyway, I say that anyone that thinks Kirin is a bad pull, use her a few times and see how awesome this card can be!!

Firecat 4 years ago ( 7.5 )

Kirin is undeniably a solid card.

The biggest issue is that the power creep has left her in the dust in terms of usability in the upper tier dungeons. Christmas Kirin has more HP and does more damage. Kali and UY do flat more damage (even though UY is pretty outdated now too).

She's good, she can clear just about anything in the game especially with a farmable team...it's just that other cards are a lot better now.

mccool37 in reply to Firecat 4 years ago ( 7.5 )

Actually, Christmas Kirin has a slightly lower multiplier at only 4.8x for a full healer team, flat damage is less for U&Y (it does get higher because they have 2 TPA's though) and to be fair, Kail is Godfest only so it make sense that she would be better.
On that though, Mei Mei just got an Awoken Uvo so the rest of the Chinese gods are soon to follow. Hopefully Kirin will keep up with the power creep.

Last edited by mccool37 4 years ago ( 7.5 )

Firecat in reply to mccool37 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 )

You're right about the damage, got me there.

I understand that Kali is godfest only but realistically Kirin is too. The drop rate for a Chinese God without a 3x rate increase is so incredibly low that it's really like it doesn't exist.

Obviously it does...but really...the whole rarity thing doesn't excuse the fact that Kali is literally a 36x leader with her ultimate evolution with a better active and for the same effort.

That's straight power creep and nothing else.

Last edited by Firecat 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 )

By good deal 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 )

Genbu just got an awoken evo. If kirin gets one as well, she's probably going to become a friggin monster.

By Jerry 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 )

WOW! That mace thing is even bigger than her head!

By roflcopt0r 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 )

The artist that drew Sakuya was also the one that drew for Fire Emblem: Awakening.

So that explains why Sakuya didn't have feet.

By Black Vise 3 years ago ( 8.7.0 )

Awoken Kirin
LKali
LKali
Sun Quan
Kushinada
Awoken Kirin
Best team ever