No.1216
反逆の熾天使・ルシファー
 God / Balanced
7 ★
MP 5000 Cost 40
 LvHPATKRCVWeightSellExp
19717543693717351763
992528150655473972765174488
 *1 Experience gain bonus from same element
 *2 Weighted Stat: HP / 10 + ATK / 5 + RCV / 3
Inflict Dark damage equal to ATK x200 to 1 enemy in exchange for reducing HP to 1. Affected by enemy element and defense. Randomly spawn 6 Heart orbs from non Dark & Heart orbs.
CD: 22 Turns ( 7 Turns at Lv.16 )
This card can be used as assist.
Dark attribute cards HP x2, ATK x1.35, RCV x2.
Skill Up Cards
Assist Bonus Stat
HP +253 ATK +75 RCV +83 ( Max Lv )
HP +352 ATK +100 RCV +128 ( Max Lv & +297 )
Applicable Killer Latents
Awoken Skills
Evolution
Lv50
Ultimate Evolution
Reverse Ultimate Evolution by using
Grayed out Japanese cards
Archangel Series
Drop Locations for #1216
This card can be obtained by:
- Evolution from Seraph of Dawn Lucifer
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By necro 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Now you can play Bejeweled 35% faster!
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Josh0owa in reply to Quillan 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
...The joke is that Luci users have to stall quite a lot, which is done the fastest when you only make one orb match per turn. In Bejeweled, you're only allowed to move one jewel by one space per turn, and so that is why using Lucifer is like playing Bejeweled.
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Chii 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
1.8225 actually, unless you really believe a luci user will not bring another with him on most dungeons.
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Setzeromus in reply to Chii 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Grape Dragon doubles HP and RCV, too. No ATK boost, though.
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WorldSend in reply to ama*ebi 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
1.35× more attack.
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McSizzles 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Now my average poop time is 35% shorter! To clarify: I play PAD when im taking a dump and when playing dbl Luci they tend to take a while... :P
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Quillan in reply to ama*ebi 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
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By buzzyrecky 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
apart from being mediocre, the thing that bothers me most about this is his icon looking off-centered
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★Liao24★ 4 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 
Thanks both of you! Now I can't unsee it.
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Green Bob7 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
That's how I feel about Odin...I always look at his bird instead of him
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Cchu 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
You ARE picky!!!
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Nightwing 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
I actually always imagine the 2nd odins charging with a red blindfold or something o_o
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By m.Frog 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
One thing to keep in mind is that ultimate Luci teams will not be safe in Hera-Ur & Goemon descends that have water bind. If Luci is your top leader and you were planning on tackling these dungeons with him, you might want to hold on to SoD Luci a bit longer :)
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Jimlin in reply to shadlite/r 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Ain't nobody got time for that.
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Bryggyth 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Personally I'm not going to ultimate evo mine so that I can pair it with an ultimate evo'd one. This is mainly because then the only thing that can bind both is a dark bind, in which case it is probably a light dungeon and I'd be using a Loki friend anyways.
So what if I only get 1.35x attack instead of 1.8225x attack. I have taken on descended dungeons with 1x attack and won, so the extra attack is just a bonus to speed things up.
Plus, maybe they'll add a second ultimate evo which is dark/light and required angelit/devilit and has basically the exact same everything except maybe better skills and a subtype (Devil?)
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Chaore 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
You also won't be safe from Goddess Descended and Zeus Descended fire demons- You had problems before because there were dark and light binds present, but they were masks that were easier to safely take down in time as they had high turn counters and low hp.

The demons are 1 turn and very difficult for luci (even ulti luci, as his attack bonus is incredibly pitiful) to take down quickly. You're better off not ulti evolving him as his bonus attack is mostly useless for your purposes and there is no other benefit.

If anything, this actually is kind of a newbie trap to luci players. Rather mean of gungho, given how cruel they've been to him with all the recent dungeons.
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-Striku- 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I agree as well.
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memerylane in reply to Bryggyth 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I did the same thing in keeping SoD Luci, and I've not regretted it one bit!
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McSizzles in reply to shadlite/r 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Or just bring a bind clearer .-. Mind>>Blown
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shadlite/r 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
You know, you could also just uvo him for the light-binding dungeons, and de-uvo him when you want to tackle goemon/hera-ur/other water binding dungeons. It's not ideal, but it's not exactly difficult to get his uvo mats, so...
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By dragoonj 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
As of 1/22/2015 in the US, Morning Star CAN be used at 1hp (no need to heal in between).
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kieran 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Wish I had read this earlier. Might have saved me a little headache though this update saved my bacon in fist of the north star. triple morning star for the win.
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By dang 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
To be honest I didn't actually expect much from luci's ult as he's already an insanely easy entry-level monster into mid and end-game content. Once you've played as extensively as I have, luci becomes more of a sub often times. So, his leader skill doesn't effect me much (though it's nice I guess). My favorite thing about this ult. is his art.
Last edited by dang 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 )
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Jimlin in reply to Charles 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
why so offense to g@y people? :(
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Charles 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
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By Shazzy@/r 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Who's psyched for the second ultimate of luci? :)
Last edited by Shazzy@/r 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 )
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Stevie@PG 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
I sure am. I havent used him in forever!
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€ rial 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
He needs:
- Better awakens (though that's a given with almost any uvo)
- Active Skill revamp to be not almost exclusively for grind teams (Raphael got his AS reworked, why not Lucifer?)
- Better typing esp Devil cuz Dark/Devil seems to be a thing these days
- Artwork that's as good or better than as his Academy counterpart

But yeah, hype is real.
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Etherious in reply to € rial 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
He fulfilled all the criteria, check it out.

Morning star buffed to ten turns, generates 5 hearts (I think it's 5 or 6)
Sweet art
Triple TPA 4 Auto heal
Devil typing.

Welcome back, Luci, your one of the best TPA subs that ever existed...😈
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By urtoast(F) 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
1.35x atk buffing? Awesome. I would have been satisfied with even 1.2x. Too bad Blue Pirate Dragon will be over before we get this, which I what I need that atk buffing for.
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By Kano 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
His art is gorgeous!
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By shadlite/r 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
wow wut a rebul
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By TheDeepOne 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
desperately needs a subtype
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By ♫ yoshi 🎶 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
I've had a few people ask me ingame so I'm just gonna post this here. Hopefully some people see it and find it helpful. (But don't get me wrong, I love it when people send me any msgs! Don't stop!! lol)

Anyway, so how do I skill up my Luci. I just farm Kanetsugu and Guan Yinping when they're out. If you time your rank up correctly, you should be able to get ~10 runs (I get 11 at my rank). That's 5-6 high dark ninjas in one day. = ~1 skill up. They are both really easy descends and they've been giving us these dungeons a lot.

For Kanetsugu, you could easily come up with a rainbow Luci team to beat it. (Zeus, Hera-Is, Rodin, Ceres, Drall, Toytops, Angelion, etc) But I normally use Okuni leads now and I never feel threatened (except when I mess up my combos). So I'm sure many other high atk teams with some utility will do just fine too. Just for ref. I use Rodin, Godin, Hera-Is, Lmeta as subs and normally only need Okuni skills. But sadly, since I take too long thinking, I sometimes end up taking almost as long as my Luci rainbow team :(

For Guan Yinping. I use Unicorn x Valk with Valk, Siren, Echidna, Shynee. I've been having horrible luck with Master so I try to run Legend but its much harder and time consuming. My buddy's been having pretty good luck with Master, though, apparently.

So that's it. I can't spend that much dark xp on ninjas atm so I farm these and get a good amount of rank and light xp, and obviously a bunch of jewels. I hope this helps someone and may my friend list be filled with hypermaxed Luci friends lol ^_^
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foxwaffles 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
This is assuming the skill ups you get actually work. 0/20 isn't really doing me much good....
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Gmuni @/r 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
XD I'm with you. I farmed a bunch of Mid Dark ninjas along side of doing the descends. Evoed them all ( took 2 months) then mass fed my Luci. He is close to hyper but not quite there yet. I'll do another max feed when I get the time again ( I did it over holiday break so I had more time to devote to the game, not so much now).
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By jeFF 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
With new active upgrade you can use his active while at 1 hp!!!
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By Ben Dover 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
i really wished my friends didn't make me feed my lucifer to my catwomen....
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OrbTrolled 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
What can I say? You got real nice friends!
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Stan 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
WTF WHO WOULD FEED A GOD AS AWESOME AS LUCI TO A LOW MONSTER LIKE CATWOMAN???
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By -Striku- 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Why do I get the feeling that as soon as his skill feeder is introduced, a lot of people would use the skill feeder in a team rather than using it for lucifer?
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By BambooDude 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
So excited for ultimate evolutions for the Archangels!!!!!
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By Apokolypse 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Debating on whether or not I should do this ulti. I would love the damage increase but I do like him the way he is....
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Bleye 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Get him for sure. His LS finally gets through Devils and Demons he had trouble getting through before.
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By Bleye 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Finally! The Fallen Angel has descended to my game.
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By Unmoved 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Not sure why everyone is bellyaching. This actually makes it much easier for Luci teams to penetrate defense, which could be a huge pain in the butt before.

Just 0 stoned Hera Is in about half the time it took me last time.
Last edited by Unmoved 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 )
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By Dust 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Im fairly new to this game so idk if this is good or not but i just ultied my lucy and was wondering if my awoken deity odin (evod brodin) would be a good sub. to me they kinda synergize (for example leader morning star, gungnir, helper morning star) but idk
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By Name 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Well, if anyone is 'lucky' enough to pull a Ceres out of the REM, a G/D Ceres fully awoken can reduce 3 bind turns with horizontal heal rows, and on top of that, her AS, "Shower of Healing" recovers full hp, plus, it also removes binding state, AND her Awoken Skills consist of 2x Resistance Bind (50% each, 100% total), so she will never be bind. G/D Ceres is like the perfect sub for a dual Lucifer team that is attempting a dungeon that have binds for important team members. The "Shower of Healing" have a 20 turn cool down; that might be a bit trouble some for binds in the early stages, but there's still the 3 bind turns recover with the horizontal heal orbs. Now, I will finally have some use for my Ceres after I pulled Lucifer in the last PCGF!
Last edited by Name 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 )
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By Bender 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
Can anyone think of a Lucifer team that can compete with this Raphael team?
I have both Raph and Luci so I can go either way, but I can't think of a Luci team that could touch this:

Double Raph leads
A. Venus
Da Qiao
Sandalphon
L Valk

A hypermaxed team has around 88000hp and 22000rcv. Can tank a 130000!! hit with Sandal's active.
So hp and rcv are impressive, what about damage? With only 10800 atk and 1.82 multiplier what can this team really do? Notice how this team has 10rows and 4+orb awakenings. A simple and easy light board(Raph+LValk+Venus) combined with a Sandal active can hit for around 2,000,000. Not so bad. But the real gem is count all dark, red, hearts and light on the board. If it =18 then DQ+LValk+Venus+Sandal give you 18 light orbs to make 3 light rows for 4,000,000dmg and Venus will give you 6 more seconds to line that up. Or if dark+heart+light=18, then use LValk first for the same combo. Make a couple of matches in between light rows and you have an easy 5,400,000 damage!!!
Here's the math because I'm sure ppl will doubt this.

1.82x 10800x1.63x1.75x2x2x3x2x2x2
leads X atk X 6+orbs X 6orb X Sandal X 2 for 5-combo X3X2X2X2 for 3 rows and 10row awakenings

A note on bind protection: Raph, Raph and DQ are heart makers with recover bind so you're fairly safe unless all 3 are bound.
Last edited by Bender 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 )
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By clef@PG 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
It's here guys, super ulti SoD :')
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By Blobs 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
jeez 1.35x ATK, 2x HP, and 2x RCV, but it loses its other sub light element which does suck a but, Hand of the Dark God, Metatron fills that position in. I thought his ultimate evol would cost more, but surprisingly its one of the cheapest ones from the new ultimate evol
Last edited by Blobs 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 )
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Chaore 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Yeah that's actually a really bad addition to his leader skill.

He doesn't care about attack, and that's probably the lowest modifier we've seen in the game. It's also there solely to justify not giving him more stats- stats that were added to attack, which again, he doesn't care about.
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Bryggyth 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Personally I think it is cool to have a dark/water one so that I can pair my dark/light one with dark/water so only one can be bound by a flash bind/water bind.
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By angel 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Looks like this lucifer had a good long run but seems to have been outclassed by devil lucifer
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By foskia 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
wondering on my wishteam... luci hera hera hera bodin luci
*boss appears*
gravity gravity gravity ms gungnir ms
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By Corey 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
I only just realized this but why is ult luci the only archangel that doesn't require a high tier evo material?
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Chrispy!PF 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
His UVO came out way before the others. He's also the darling of the series, so he gets more love.
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By Jared 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Has anyone tried running dual RS Luci leads with High Dark Ninja subs?
The numbers I'm getting are a respectable 27k HP and
9.5k RCV with dark ATK at 16.7k.
Not to mention awokens and 6 Morning Star hits, (if you can find a way to boost HP slightly between them). This seems like it could be pretty devastating.
Thoughts? Results? Feedback appreciated.
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Marlboro 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Supposedly the latest update allows you to use MS at 1 hp... I haven't tried it yet, but a couple guys on the forum confirmed and there's a video.
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By Flariza 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Why isn't Luci getting an ult. Ult. Evo? All the other archangels are getting em, show Luci some love gung-ho pls. Although he does have an academy version which just seems like a light version to me, but still lots of people are saying stall teams have fallen off the meta but I'd love to see Luci climb back to the top.
Last edited by Flariza 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 )
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Flariza 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
X(
Last edited by Flariza 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 )
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By Lord_Toxic 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Wait so if I Ultimate Evolve my Lucifer it will lose the 3rd awakening I awakened already or it will be replaced? No more light binds messing up Lucifer teams is a dream come true and Ulti-Lucifer with auto recover being stacked with Sirens, Lilith's and a Friends Ulti-Lucifer. Haku teams are smiling at the moment too.
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AiLied 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
In a future patch, Luci's 3rd awaken skill gets changed to skill lock resist and he gets the 4th auto heal awakening. The change affects the non-ulti Lucifer too, but it hasn't happened yet here.

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=35
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Bryggyth 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
No more light binds, but water binds on the other hand...
Personally I'm going with 1 ultimate and 1 non-ultimate so only a dark bind can bind both.
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By angel 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
So if I feed him all the things required to evo him it won't work right?? Id pretty much lose the monsters ? Well for now
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nagato 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
this is because he hasnt released yet in the US version so yes u have sorry
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By kross 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Sigh no subtype. I was hoping he'd get one; so the other archangels would have a chance too. I guess a balance Michael is just a pipe dream.... QQ
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Chaore 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Don't give up hope- Luci's basically the black sheep because he actually works.

They'll give the other archangels alot more love, especially the RGB ones.
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Stephen in reply to Chaore 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
nope just the red and green no love for gabe yet
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mid135@/r 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
your dream come true
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By Andrew 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
I hate that I cant evo my Suprah because my phone doesn't work any more and also I have all the evo material for it
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By Killerfroy 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
I like the new leader skill and everything but it kinda sucks that awakening skills are changed now you have to decide to keep or evolve also why does he look like Jin from blaze blue
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By JD@PG 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Stay free uvo Lucifer, you get binded by Hera-Ur, Goemon, fire descended. Should have kept the light sub-element.
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By Baesong 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
My Lucifer is awoken 3 times already, does that mean when I ultimate it, the third awakening skill is just going to be bind-resistance?

Auto recover is going to be so OP. 2 MS in a row... OMG. Can't even handle...
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Ghost24 in reply to Stephen 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I use a grodin for this
Last edited by Ghost24 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 )
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Stephen 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
sorry to say but auto recover activates after you match orbs so you'd still have to waste a turn before you could use the second ms but you could instead use a draining active skill like the low ninjas, kaworu, kerokerokeroppi, etc. in between ms to slightly heal above 1hp then ms again
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kai@HNL 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
actually it is possible to activate his awok to ms 2wice in one turn. but it requires some luck, u need the skill: "Orb Refresh". & get a lucky skyfall match so it triggers the awok.............LOL........... but, yea like ghost24 said "he uses GOdin" hehehe
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By Bahamut 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
live with the negativity of Gung-ho's nerfing system, think. we wouldnt want to completely get every monster and beat every dungeon too fast.
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By vividox 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
Hmmm, no additional stats, light -> blue, and 1.35 ATK. It's underwhelming, but it "synchronizes" Luci with all the other dark/blue subs (Hera-IS, Drawn Joker, Vampire, Beelzebub...) at least . Luci teams running Hera-IS and Hera will get the benefit of enhanced dark AND enhanced blue orbs. That's something I guess.

Also worth noting that when running duel leaders (like most Luci leaders tend to do), ATK is x1.82, which is a fairly substantial improvement over x1.00.

The water binds will present a problem, but ultimately I think evolving will be worth it.
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By JeffS 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Has Gungho Announce when this will reach North America? How long does it usually take to get here?
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By J.T. 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I don't know if it's just me but doesn't he look like he be the main hero/villain of an anime? An attack boost is an attack boost, be grateful they even gave it to lil ol' Luci.
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By joey 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Is this uvo coming to EN anytime soon?... Three kingdoms monsters were discussed AFTER the popular vote uvos and have already been implemented into the game....... what's taking so long
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By Chaosaurus 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
When will he be available in thee English version :(
* waiting*
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By Brandon 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Only a cost of 40. Geez no wonder REM hates me in giving me good stuff.
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By Joseph 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Finally In NA <3
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By Joey 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
It's Like the same Thing. When You get higher up in the dungeons You can't really use him as your leader. They added too much cost to it too. I'm not saying He's bad or anything.. Its that they just its stats are the same and there's not that much changes to him. Other than that it's pretty good
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By blaze 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Sorry still a newbie at this game and website, but I can get this in the US version right? I ask because if I can't I don't want to waste the valuable monsters on this. I would really like this and will most likely be my first choice to use the material.
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Cohen 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
If you combine all the power-up materials and the "Begin Fusion" button isn't flashing green 'n yellow then DON'T! This feature means Ult Evo's are obvious and only if they've come to the US version + were in the latest patch.
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By Pika 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I hope they make a Dark/Light or Dark/Dark ulti evo for lucifer
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By angel 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
You can finally use him for a new dungeon! Wednesday dungeon. And his 4th awakening is useful here. Gung-ho is clever
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By AlyssaD 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
I want iiiiiitttt
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nerdotaku 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
. Good luck, hope you get him.
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Stan 4 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
i LOVE luci i hope everyone gets him like i did :)
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By 巨人に食われた学生 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
I always wondered if these angels SERVE God, why are they god type?
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... 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
he's a rebel, what did you expect?
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By Greg! 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
He's gaining a Balanced sub-type, active skill maximum cooldown to 20, and his two Attack Boost awakenings are going to be switched into Two Pronged attack, and Skill Boost. He just got more useful. Soon-to-be great sub for D/B Loki.
Last edited by Greg! 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 )
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Greg! in reply to OzzyG92 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=163
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OzzyG92 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
Why do you say so? You better not be yanking my leg...
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By Shynee 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
So even if the skill spawns 3 heart orbs, you won't be able to use another Luci until your HP is greater than 1?
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♫ yoshi 🎶 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
I believe they are going to change that with that same update. I've seen ppl on jpn forums using 3x MS, then Vamp all in 1 turn for a burst.
Last edited by ♫ yoshi 🎶 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 )
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By D 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Just our if curiosity, would a grape fruit dragon work as a decent substitute instead of Luci? He has the same leader skill with the 2x health and recovery, he's just lacking the attack which isn't that much anyways.
Is this a poormans mans viable option?
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philthy510 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
As far as leader skill that would be fine but its the Active Skill: Morning Star that 1 shot kills most early dungeon bosses that is so desired. Or the High Dark Ninja also has that skill if you are looking for it.
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By Toki@PG 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
4 lucifers a good idea? on a team since morning star can now be used at 1hp. Just wondering because i have 3 just sitting in my box
Last edited by Toki@PG 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 )
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5)(0UK0N 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
EDIT:
Sorry I didn't pay close attention enough to notice that you have 3 Lucifers O_o"
4 Lucifers (counting your friend) can be a good idea, but I do recommend a Drawn Joker or Grape Dragon, plus a Divine Queen Hera for your remaining 2 subs, that would be good.

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(original post)


If you really have 4 Lucifers, that would be fine to deal with "Boss prepares to do heavy damage when HP is less than __%".

If not, I prefer 2 (or 3) Ultra-Gravity subs (Hera[farmable], Hera-Is[farmable], Hades[REM]) and just 2 Lucifers, leader and friend, in the team.
The remaining 1 or 2 subs being Drawn Joker and/or Grape Dragon to ensure sufficient heart supply.

After clearing Hera Descended with a no-gravity Lucifer Team,
I once used this setup to clear Valkyrie, Hera-Ur (with PRE-ult-evo Lucifer) and Goemon, though it is not 100% successful.
Last edited by 5)(0UK0N 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 )
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By jaemon82 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Well I ult evod him to get the balance sub type to run as a sub in my god or balanced teams. Being I really dnt have alot of fancy dark cards to have a mono dark team yet.
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By DonutPower 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Question about the Japanese version of Rebel Seraph Lucifer:

Do leader abilities, such as attack multipliers, increase his actives damage or does it only give bonuses to orb chains? I guess what I am wondering about is if his Leader Ability effects the amount of damage his Morning Star does?
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€ rial 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
It probably doesn't, since skills as of now that deal raw damage based on an ATK multiplier (such as the starter dragon actives) don't have increased damage in proportion to LS. Then again, I don't play JP, so don't just take it from me.
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DonutPower in reply to € rial 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Thanks, just hearing that it doesn't for other creatures at the moment works for me.
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By Prospero 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
So its now 200x attack for him. I haven't used him in so long I was wondering if anyone can tell me how significant this last update was.
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Rbastid 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
Did they just ninja update him for EN today? (6/18/2015) I was running a dungeon I tend to fly through and just happened to check the damage when I attacked the light boss, was kind of surprised when my D/L Luci hit for 576,000 Then finished it off with a friend D/W Luci for well over 600K. I knew they did the JP update but they never mentioned it happening here (which is funny as the good stuff takes 3+ months yet the bad stuff gets here in weeks)

Any other updates we should know about?



Edit: In hindsight I guess is pretty decent, had a frIend RSL hit for near 700K on a light boss, just which would help in some dungeons where you needed a full +99 Satan + a great dark combo to kill the boss. I guess I've got to add str eggs to my Luci, as I like to run one D/L and one D/W to protect from a double color bind (obviously besides dark)
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otaku 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
You can't have half-assed lucis leading your teams anymore. If you want to use luci the way he was generally used, you have to go all out to enhance and level him to max or near max. Not that it didn't help a lot before, but now anybody who's not aware is going to get an ugly surprise when they do their gravs+MS's and the boss is still alive. This cuts down on the usefulness of low- to mid-level or un-evo'ed lucis.

I wonder how this is going to affect the calculations for the dungeon info...

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By ¡Crusty¿ 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
Not that I'm complaining, but why doesnt Luci's ult not require any new evo mats while all the other archangels do?
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By Sonya 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
So, I need to ask something. This might seem a little convoluted.

I have Shinra Soul Beast Sai (Fire/Dark) in my Dark Team for metal dragon runs, etc.

Since Sai is Fire/Dark, does he benefit from Lucifer's Leader skill? Or do Leader skills only apply when the main element is the element stated?

Thanks all!
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Greg! 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
Leader Skills apply to sub-elements and subtypes. So, yey! Your Sai should be very happy
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By EbonRaven 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
I think I squealed a little much at work LOL. during the god fest today got alot fo crap units but among the good ones is a green odin, a red dragon called and a green one and to top it all off Luci <3. best pulls I have gotten in a very very long time
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By Shazzy@/r 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
Why is lucifer the only archangel without any rate evo material in his max evo...?
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Chinny in reply to transient 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
You clearly have not seen high level tank teams.
There's a tank team that took out ultimate arena.
Luci may not have been their lead of choice, but I'm just arguing against your "stall teams are not viable" statement.
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transient 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
Because Lucifer is the worst archangel and they know it :/

Remember prior to both buffs that they gave his active skill, it was a single use active (no double morning star in one turn without wasting more slots for heals).

Stall teams are just not really viable in the meta now.

Yes they will get you through the early game like green odin but not only is it extremely boring (and there are better options like awoken greco-roman and more recently awoken chinese) but it also tank teams don't play well against the 100% grav (unless you want to waste a slot for protection...)

Lucifer here is easily outclassed by Nephthys who not only provides HP/RCV (albeit less) but gives a significant damage increase. Alternatively you can run devils and Ult Asmodeus for an even better attack multiplier.

Lucifer's awakenings are just alright. TPA is pretty useless on this build especially coming from a time of dark row dominance (see d.meta, pandora). By rocking double luci, you are denying yourself 4 rows from leaders... the new dark dragon godfest exclusive Satsuki could help your team by bringing in 3 TPA but the leader multiplier kinda puts a damper on that.

Lucifer like all the angels suffers from bindability, but this is particularly bad for hp leads since getting double bound is essentially 75% grav (assuming full health), that's a whole lotta fun.

Lucifer's new active is significantly better than the old one. Higher damage cap, multiple uses (would allow you to get 6 hearts for bind clear row assuming you bring a sub that works that way) and DECENT damage nuke. Yes, even in the nuke category this card is outclassed by non-REM cards such as Kefka (FF collab) and Kagato (shinra banshou 2 collab) and High dark ninja...

With poor typing (no devil), poor active, poor awakenings, the only real reason to put this card on your team is if you feel like reliving the old grind days or you really need RCV on your dark team...
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By Blockhead1 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Wish he was god devil or devil balanced. i just really want to use him with lu bu for personal reasons.
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By Scott 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Does Lucifer's leader skill also affect monsters that have sub-elements of dark
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buttz 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
yes
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By Orange 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
What's the deal with this guy? I just rolled 2 during the Godfest/Midnight Gala combo and he doesn't fit any of my teams. Do I just make a situational grind team like:

Lucifer
Lucifer
Kefka (I'll prob max skill him before getting 1 Sephiroth skill up drop)
Hera
Hera
Lucifer

Then just grind for skills and certain descends? Will this bag of uninteresting get me through Keeper of Gold? Are there better uses for him?
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SaltyS@OTS 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
yeah generally some mix of heras, KoR, lucifers, and high dark ninjas is enough to grind out quite a bit of the game. he can clear Wednesday dungeon i know for sure, idk about the rest of the weeklies. Also theres some vids of luci teams clearing absolutely insane dungeons

/watch?v=BIEWWQLImEg&feature=youtu.be

Theres another one lying somewhere around where he has android 17 as a sub, another challenge 10.

Honestly the biggest perk is beating some dungeon with him and watching people rage how your playing the game wrong
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(づo.o)づHi 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
For the most part, he does nothing. Lucifer grind teams can 0-stone only a very limited number of dungeons, and very few newer ones, not to mention it will take you ages. If you'd like to use Lucifer and perhaps be non-iap, go play bejeweled, because it is free, too.
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By Apathetic 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
It looks like he is about to cut his fingers off. 0-0
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By foxwaffles 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
inb4 super ult gives him quad donger

j/k he might get like 8 autoheals instead.
Last edited by foxwaffles 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 )
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By Adamjc 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
watch gung ho give this heavily hated-on card (well deserved) an absolutely insane ultimate, enough to bring him into the top 20 overall on PadGuide
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By Drozee 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
quad dong. 2k auto recovery. Devil typing w/ hp boost. calling it
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Nen 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
I highly doubt the awokens but the rest seems highly likely.
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Drozee in reply to Nen 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Whoops, miscounted awoken slots. I guess I was close tho haha
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By Divinis13 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
So is ever going to get an Awoken like the others?
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Greg! 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Super Ultimate announced. Triple TPA and 2000 Auto Heal
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By Ben Dover 7 months ago ( 12.0.3 ) 
:( no Awoken? Mannnnn I was hoping to be able to get a 3 turn haste on those gravities
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By -Striku- 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
It couldn't get broken enough. Now it has a ATT multiplier?!
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By Legend7Nat 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
So the bejeweled master is going to become super
Honestly he's already most popular out of his clan so doesn't need ultimate but might as well call it see if I'm right


His new typing is....... If devil he will be so OP but have a feeling he will go attacker instead or most likely dragon because duhhhh king of hell is supposed to be a dragon
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Nen 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
People often mix up Lucifer and Satan, pay closer attention to the mythology, they are 2 different beings.
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Drfjgjbu in reply to Nen 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Lucifer becomes satan, but this particular lucifer isn't quite satan yet. Lucifer was highest of the angels, then Michael drove him out. Considering that, why isn't Michael stronger than lucifer in this series?
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Nen in reply to Drfjgjbu 3 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
That's another common mix up, Michael fights SATAN, not Lucifer, in book or revelations which takes place far after Lucifer is cast out. He shouldn't be higher than Lucifer because before his downfall he was the highest being (aside from "God").

The only religion that believes Michael is the one who actually cast out Lucifer is the Mormons (which isn't considered to be "main stream" Christianity. And even they believe he was Jesus then and not actually called "Michael" some also believe it was Adam.
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By joey 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Leader skill should have been 2.5x hp & 2.5x rcv
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Chaore 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
We're not at the point of breaking number convention when that'd be acceptable. 2.5x/2x leaders are still brand new, we can't push new ground yet.
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Stephen 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
that multiplier has only been found on special gods and only 2.5x atk and rcv it would make lucifer insanely over-powered and even more over used than he already is
personally i think they should give the other, less popular archangels in the series such as raphael who everyone seems to hate for no reason and the tricolors an uvo because of how much luci overshadows them. Not only does he have an advantageous attribute, he also has the morningstar which, in many dungeons is a critical part of taking out an over-powered boss that must be KOed the first turn
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Ghost24 in reply to Stephen 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
i really like raphael. he was my first god and i mpair his skill a lot with attack stances.
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Stephen in reply to Ghost24 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
i do too but if you go to his page everybody hates him
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Stan in reply to Stephen 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
ick rapheal. no wonder ur weird
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