No.1207
五機龍融合・デモンハダル
 Dragon / Machine / Devil
7 ★
MP 10 Cost 35
 LvHPATKRCVWeightSellExp
114887662831110352513
994318170998806102465248738
 *1 Experience gain bonus from same element
 *2 Weighted Stat: HP / 10 + ATK / 5 + RCV / 3
Deal 30000 Dark damage to all enemies. Affected by enemy element and defense. Enhance Dark orbs. +6% per orb, up to +180% for full board.
CD: 20 Turns ( 5 Turns at Lv.16 )
This card cannot be used as assist.
Dark attribute & Machine type cards ATK x2.5. Machine type cards HP x1.5.
Skill Up Cards
Applicable Killer Latents
Awoken Skills
Ultimate Evolution
Reverse Ultimate Evolution by using
Grayed out Japanese cards
Mech Dragon Series
Drop Locations for #1207
This card can be obtained by:
- Evolution from Annihilate Mechdragon, Hadar
October Quest Dungeon
Super Ultimate Machine Rush!
May Quest Dungeon
Other tiers of this card can be obtained from:
Deus ex Machina Descended!
Rusted Mechdragon
Extreme Dragon Rush! 2
Mechdragon Rush!
October Quest Dungeon
Super Ultimate Machine Rush!
Machine Challenge!-Mythical
April Quest Dungeon
Machine Quest Challenge!
August Quest Dungeon-Novice to Int.
Machine Quest Challenge!
Descended Challenge! 34
Descended Challenge! 29
Descended Challenge! 24
Descended Challenge! 25
Descended Challenge! 19
Descended Challenge! 16
Descended Challenge! 12
Descended Challenge! 10
Descended Challenge! 8
Descended Challenge! 7
Dark & Ocean Metallic Star Dragons
Fire & Dark Metallic Star Dragons
Mechdragons' Massive Fortress
Elemental Brawl Tournament
Machine Zeus Descended!
Machine Hera Descended!
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By James 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Just a tip. Creatures store their amount of awakenings beyond the amount that creature actually has, and if evolved, those extra awakenings are automatically activated. Which is to say, feed your unevolved Hadar four more Hadar to set his hidden awakening count to four. Once you evolve him to this version, all four awakenings will already be unlocked.
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newborn in reply to tant 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
It only works if the monster is already at an evolution that has awakenings.
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Anon 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Man. This may be one of the best PaD discoveries yet.
Last edited by Anon 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 )
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G Bird 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
PAD has had some major updates this year so I was wondering if this method would still work. I have just tested it and am happy to report that it still works! Thanks for the info.
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*A44 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
Thank you!!!
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tant 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
Question: Does this work on monsters that do not currently have awoken skills, but have them in higher levels of evolution?
For example, would fusing 3 Nagas into a fourth Naga secretly unlock her 3 awokens, which are revealed in her 2nd evolution stage? I honestly should know this, but I can't remember if I tried skilling up my Naga when she was still a Naga or when I already evolved her into an Echidna..
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Hvylia 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
That does work indeed!
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tant in reply to newborn 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
Thanks! It's disappointing, but expected lol.
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By Krosis 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
I love the art style of this game.

You got epic medieval heavy battle knights, the fantastical yet fitting gods and devils, and...

And then you have this robot motherfuker shooting missiles and giant arm cannons
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Pachrick in reply to Rain 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
You can swear on the internet, we won't tell on you
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OuP in reply to Rain 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
ty, you've solved world hunger
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Pinkie_Pie in reply to Zabi 2 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
what epic glorious cuckery thou engage in!
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Zabi in reply to Rain 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
I personally hate it when people cuss also.

Just cause I prefer to not hear/read such things, haha.

But yeah, the art here is indeed very amazing! It actually inspired me to try drawing my characaters in a similar way~
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Rain 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
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By Dr Missile 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
Gung-ho, this card took a lot of time and effort to farm, max level, and max skill. Furthermore, If you look at the teams it is being used for it is almost exclusively devils; a fact that I'm sure comes as no surprise. In spite of the application of this card being quite obvious, you totally undermined its value with this change. This willful dismantling of its usefulness resonates as contempt for me as a player. I spent the better part of a year assembling my devil team and this guy was no small part of that effort. To remove one of its most critical features is a slap in the face. You're basically saying, "we don't care about you and your time. We only care about complicating team composition" with a new type no one wants or needs.

I understand that this change is temporary, however for the months that it remains dragon/machine, he and my devil team are pretty much useless. If in fact you do actually care about my time, you might transfer the machine subtype to what is currently the dragon subtype slot. I assure you, you will anger far fewer people.
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aFireBlaze 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
Thankfully, version 8.2 which is currently released in Japan fixes all of that; even for Canopus too with TRIPLE TYPING.
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lux143 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
gungho doesn't and will never read any of this. but believe me...i totally agree. email them on facebook instead.
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By Espoire 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
All hail Hadar, king of the farmable devil subs!
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(._.)™ 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
You were saying?

EDIT: Nevermind, it's now devil type again. It was changed to dual drag/mach type for a while.
Last edited by (._.)™ 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 )
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By Kitt 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Some TIP for those who want to ult evo mechdaragon:
-feed 4 copies to pre-ult version before ult evolve him, so that he will be fully awoken in ult form.
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Jayhawker 3 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
Confirmed again.... I wish I was always aware of this gem of a secret.
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scott 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
Confirmed. There ya go my ronia team.
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By Legend7Nat 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
finally viable as a devil type again
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By Diamona 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
So, it's the Megazord of Puzzle and Dragons? The arm-cannon looks pretty snazzy.
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By El Rayo 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
This card is too darn good!! Perfect for a D/R Satan build. Nice TPA, amazing HP, auto heal, and a dark row. Doesn't get any better. 10/10 for this card.
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By tian 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
WHY DID YOU TAKE AWAY HIS DEVIL FOR MACHINE!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!
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gotdemoted 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
hes getting it back with the new update
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By nate 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I think the lengendary dragon rush 2 will bring all of the mechdragons. With a drop rate of .000000000001
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Jacques 4 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
thats a remarkably high drop rate. I might stone it.
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By Jaye@PF 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
If only i could of got the light one (only team high end i have atm is Astaroth)

eh oh well
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By Rubicari 4 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 
I love the idea of this one, my only complaint is they should have given him 4 or 5 awoken skills instead of just 2. The mat needed doesn't seem justified for just 2. What would have been perfect would've been a row enh for each element, since it takes them all to evo him, that would have made him real special
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Rubicari in reply to Dr. Psaroo 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Lol, though he didn't get extra row enhances I'm actually quite pleased with the two prong & auto-heal (especially on a dragon!). He will fit nicely on a double Zaerog team!
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Dr. Psaroo 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Wish granted.
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By Coprophile 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Does anyone think the materials required for ult evo are justified? It seems way too costly / not worth it.
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K1 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
I think it's a better alternative to Cerberus for a RSonia/Satan team so the requirement is justified
Last edited by K1 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 )
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Aqua 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Mech dragons are pretty farmable, the golden keeper on the other hand will be much more difficult.
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ProRay298 in reply to Aqua 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
the mechs are relatively easy to get at a higher rank, but considering how they're only around once a year...
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Char@PF in reply to ProRay298 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
We will be getting a MechDragon Rush at some point, because JP just got one.
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lux143 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
these requirements are getting completely obsurd.... also, look at what you get for giving up all of those cards....nothing much...thats what you get.
i wont even bother with this...
next...
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Jin요한@PG 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Why in the world are you people complaining? First awoken skill is changed to row enhance and they're getting subtype/subcolor making them even more viable as a sub not to mention their awesome health and attack stats. Id gladly sacrifice the required mats to make the ult mech that i need. Its not like you all are using mech dragons as they are right now (except the green one maybe for drag team); probably just sitting in your box collecting dust.
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ProRay298 in reply to Char@PF 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
with my luck I'll probably only get Ice Mech drops, which is the only one I have :P
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∅ in reply to K1 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
True. Also great sub for pure dark Haku team if one doesn't have Persy. With Vamp in the team as well it meets the color requirement, the other two could be Hera/Hades/Loki/Lucifer/Baddie.
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barnard 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
If you think that the materials required are too costly for a Dragon/Devil, with 2 good Awakenings and a weighted stat of 806 then go look at Omega Night Sky-Dragon, Elysion.

http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=776

That crap creature is what you get for run of the mill evo materials.
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stimpy 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Justify based on the stats and awoken skill. Possibly YES.
But the other reason IMHO is since it's farmable they really make you work for it.
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Walrus 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
He is gaining a stat boost, Devil subtype, red element subtype, an improved leader skill and more, better awoken skills. It is a lot of work to get but totally worth it considering he surpasses other non-REM and even rivals some of the REM options.
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Walrus in reply to K1 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Also good on mono dark and G-Sonia/dark dragon teams.
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Walrus in reply to Char@PF 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
.. at abysmal drop rates... I personally can't wait for their individual dungeons to return.
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By Avelarius 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Gold Keeper, check. I am almost ready to get this guy. As soon as I am willing to spend 450 stamina, he is mine.

Among the many uses I have for him I want to try this one for the kicks:

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=1084.99.1.0.0.0.9..1129.99.1.99.99.99.3..826.99.1.99.99.99.3..1207.99.1.0.0.0.4..893.99.1.0.0.0.4..1215.99.1.99.99.99.6

Persephone is off type but will benefit from Grape leader skill and is the best dark heart breaker in my box (others are vampire and wicked lady) and I need one to activate Dragon Shogun.

Leveling my dark dragons in Legendary Dragons' Footprints also made me skill up and awake Lilith.

Interesting how playing dragons slowly brings up the devil inside you...
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By Souen 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
Didn't Hadar use to have a Devil Sub-Type? Or am I just dreaming?
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chinesepro 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
it did until the new patch. gg to most of its usefulness...
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By C 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Stop the madness!
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By Skyknight 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
{blinks} I can see how God Canopus needs the other mechdragons, since they're going Getter Robo. What's going on with Devil Hadar, though? Which parts of it did the other mechs transform into?
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urtoast(F) 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Canopus is a "gattai" or classical combination of robots from tv and anime (Like Super Sentai/Power Rangers or GoLion/Voltron), whereas Hadar is a "yuugou" or a fusion/absorption type combination (like Super Buu was in Dragon Ball Z).
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Quincy 4 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
I can sort of see...
Betelgeuse chest (that iron man core-ish thing is just bigger and glowier than before)
Regulus wings

Aldebaran legs (+Betelgeuse kind of armor on them maybe or just hadar)?
Canopus kind of a stretch but spikes on the legs and maybe some on the head? maybe even the tail but that could be Betelgeuse again

either wayyyyyy the artwork just looks so BOSS, both the arms are just so destructive looking! wish the attack was a godly idk 2000 flat or something to compliment just how epic all the mechdragons are added together
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barnard 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
They weren't fused into him, but sacrificed, awakening the evil spirit in Hadar thus he became a devil type. Seriously i don't know, who really cares though. Just come up with any little cliche you want and evo this guy. He is worth it.
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Char@PF in reply to urtoast(F) 4 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Following that logic, Canopus should be the "combo" and Hadar should be the "fusion".
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Stan in reply to Char@PF 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
fusion sounds good, combo sounds more evil
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Bob 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Its like power rangers, how they all combo'ed into one.
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By Jstar 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
For his skill, which multipliers will further increase the damage? So 30k x 280% for a full panel. Is it only for Dark Atk multipliers or will a dragon attack multiplier also increase skill?
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Josh-PF/BB 4 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
Leader skills stack with orb enhance with stacks with row enhance which stacks with (1) damage multiplier
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By Icycold 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Devil + Dark + Red
active: dark orb enhance
awaken : Dark row + skill up
4k HP, 1709 attack ...

Wow, Hello Red Sonic !!!
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By drew 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Gungho needs to run the mechs again for him becuase I fused mine together so I dont have extras
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By Wobbuffet 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Are the ultimate evos for these worth it? It's all the other Mechdragons and Keeper of Gold to get them. Ridiculous!
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jundem 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
I don't know about you but his skills and awakening are just the thing my ronia team need, the devil subtype, the dark orb and row enhance, skill up, and tpa is delicious, the autoheal is just a bonus.
and since he's easy to farm now in the technical dungeon, I say why not.
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By mochi 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
FYI: started with a fully awoken Hadar (two awokens), used a Canopus and Aldebaran with one awoken each, along with the other mechdragons unawoken, and ended up with a fully-awoken Demon Hadar. I'd only expected two from the original ones on Hadar--did anyone else encounter this? I'm certainly not complaining since I'd planned on using tama to go the rest of the way, but it would be nice for people who were thinking of going this route to know that this is possible. Did anyone try this with all unawoken mechdragons and get the same result?
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James 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
You probably fed Hadar some extra Hadar before you evolved him. Creatures keep track of how many awakenings they have beyond the amount that are displayed. Which is to say, if you take a Hadar, and feed him four Hadar, he receives a count of four awakenings although only two are displayed. Once you evolve him into this version, with four awakenings, all four awakenings will already be active.
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mochi 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Just tried a similar fusion for Folklore, but it only ended up with the one awoken skill it started with. If you're planning on going with these uvos, I'd recommend having the base dragons (e.g. Canopy's, Hadar) max awoken first.
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MooSama xD in reply to James 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Thanks buddy, I had no idea of that either. Mines came fully awoken as well but I didn't know why but good to know that it keeps track of the awoken beforehand.
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By Albegas 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
All I need is Green and Yellow, then I can just farm spam the Dark one for skill ups
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By nathan@N17 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
High hp, high attack with skill boost, row enhance and a 500 heal for kicks...also to add a little damage nuke with orb enhance. Oh you bet I'm gladly giving up POS mechs to get you
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By Unkownism 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Seeing that auto recover is making me seriously rethink going for God Canopus 1st. I'd use him in a War Deity Ares team: Ares lead, this guy & Goemon, & Demolishing Shiva friend. Goemon for full board of fire, Shiva to remove defense & enhance the board, Hadar's active then let loose. A beautiful team for this type of combo would have Horus & ult Raphael so you could use an enhanced fire board 2 turns in a row so if you sweep with Hadar & sweep with Goemon's board you might be capable of clearing 3 floors. The downfall being you would need a cost limit of 180 at least, 215 for evolved Goemon & an ult Horus. Can anybody tell me what the maximum team cost you can get is? I'm guessing maybe 200
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Albegas 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
516 http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/rankchart.asp
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Unkownism in reply to Albegas 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Thank you kindly, had no clue ranks went that high so that's what I get for making an assumption.
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nathan@N17 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
That is a very odd team....why wouldn't you just run goemon instead of ares because ×2 attack is nothing and hadar would barely benefit from it
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Dr. Psaroo in reply to Albegas 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
It actually gets higher. Some people have gotten to Rank 700. (366 stamina)
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By Greg! 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
I regret not doing the Mechdragon dungeons...As soon as his dungeon came out, I received my DAL Lucifer. I could've built a strong devil team with this guy :(

I will get your Evo Materials soon enough...
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guacamole1 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
Request granted with the new Mechdragon technical dungeons. :D
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By Hade 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Still cost 60 on NA vesion :(
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By Josh 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
Just got him. Second day of the new Tech dungeons. Sooo much better for my red Sonia team than the chaos devil dragon! Now just need some tams or to run Shadow of destruction 4 more times.
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Greg! 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
I prefer the latter. It's almost never smart to use TAMADRA's on farmable units, especially if they don't need to be evolved anymore
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Josh in reply to Greg! 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
Well I actually screwed up also, I should have waited to get him until I maxed Awoken 287 Hadar. Then I would have transferred the Awoken skills right?
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Greg! in reply to Josh 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
Oh man I assumed that's what you did. If you read through the comments, you can even feed him 4 times so that he's max awoken when he ult evolves.

Anyway, you have two choices:

1. Un-evolve him, and awaken him, then evolve again
2. TAMADRA's

If you've got spare TAMADRA's, then go ahead. It might not be worth the extra 600+ stamina to get all mechdragons again.
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Josh in reply to Greg! 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
The mechdragons aren't the problem, it's the gold keeper. I think i might just use the Tamadras they give out for the 5mil event.
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Dr. Psaroo in reply to Josh 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
I get Keepers of Gold from the PEM. I've already uvo'd Midgard and this guy already and have a spare ready for a potential Kirin.
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By Greg! 4 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
Finally got him. Sonia now has a new pet!
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Rain 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Was this how Sonia saw this day coming???? Seriously, look at the pic for Demon Hadar. It's bad to the bone, how the developers designed it. But it shouldn't be in the leader slot because it could reduce your health to 0 in a pinch, without meaning to. Is it just me or is the Team Simulator showing disaster?
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By Bé Táo@PV 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
i have 4 of this , what should i do ?
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By Omnimon 3 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Thanks god I got TWO keeper of gold from the pem. I just need advice for the rest of my team.

Dragon Shogun(leader)
God Canopus(Sub)
Demon Hadar(Sub)
?
?
Green Sonia(friend leader)
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By Lgdm 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Subtype will be changed from Devil to Machine ...
I just have spent one KoG to enhance my Devil Team a few days ago, but Hadar will soon become totally useless for a Devil Team.
Be careful before ultimate evolving him.
Last edited by Lgdm 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 )
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magnifico 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Don;t worry too much. It's a temporary loss until triple types are implemented.
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By VinylXIII 3 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
I'm gonna be looking to get him for my Ronia team. Him / Dark Liege / King Baddie / and Drawn Joker Ronia team.
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By BioCryo 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
Im reading his leader skill with:

Dark attribute & Machine type cards ATK x2.5. Machine type cards HP x1.5.

My dragon says:

Dark attribute & Devil type cards ATK x2.5

So.... who's ready for the new machine type monster to come out?
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By Soulslayer 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
"demon hadar" with the recent update he's no longer a demon type, just pulled 2 ronias and thought I'd get him and now he's useless to me.
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Jacky@PG 3 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
I like how people are overreacting to Hadar losing Devil type when they said he'll get it back once they implement Triple typing...
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By nturtle 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I usually like to be bought dinner before I get bent over and drilled for ridiculous mat costs. And not even an 8 ★ monster.
Last edited by nturtle 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 )
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Setzeromus 4 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
As of now, you can get them all from their respective Technical Dungeons at 100% drop rates for the cost of 50 stamina per run. You also get decent gold and experience for completion, plus smaller drops for experience fodder.

Your best bet is to run the first four dungeons once each, then run Hadar five times. Feed four Hadars to the fifth, then ultimate evo, and you'll have a fully-awoken Hadar at a higher starting level with possibly a few skill ups from the other four Hadars used as fodder.

All in all, you're looking at a pretty powerful TPA-capable team sub that also works great on devil teams, enhances dark orbs every eight turns at most (think Ronia sub, like a poor man's Hera-Ur; only dark enhance, plus 30k damage), and he only costs 35. At maximum level, Hadar breaks 4,300 HP and 1,700 ATK (with +99, they cap at over 5,300 and 2,200, respectively). He's a freakin' beast, especially for all of his fodder being pretty farmable (save KoG), provided you want more than one. If not, you can always just run Hadar's dungeon over and over to get skill-up and exp. fodder for him. He'll level in no time, given the 37,695 experience you'll get for every Lv.10 Hadar you feed him, which, incidentally, is the level at which he will drop, guaranteed, each time you run his dungeon.

All of this, of course, also goes for Uvo Canopus, who also kicks serious butt in much the same manner (think dual Athena team). With two Keepers of Gold and some patience, and you have two relatively versatile face-melters at your disposal at a mere team cost of 35 each.

Pretty worth it, to be honest, if you ask me.

EDIT: Well, I guess Canopus isn't nearly as useful on a Dual Athena team anymore, having lost God-type.
Last edited by Setzeromus 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 )
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CatsemanSA 4 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Not really such a crazy cost. Mechdragons are just as useless to me as dragon plants.
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By ryanatk 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
GREAT HE ISNT DEVIL NO MORE
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Pikagami 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
Actually, he's losing his Devil type temporarily until an update enables cards to have three types. He'll eventually have a Dragon/Machine/Devil typing.
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Meowmerz in reply to Pikagami 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
Seems like it would have been a lot less disruptive to leave him as is and add Machine type once three types go live. As it is now, a lot of devil teams are left hanging while Machine teams aren't really developed yet.

Sure, there are plenty of replacements for him and it's not the end of the world, it just seems unnecessarily inconvenient.
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By Marvin 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
Just lost his Devil subtype ! F**k :(
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nick 3 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
Yep this is very annoying.
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mccool37 in reply to nick 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
A little but it's a temporary switch until a new update allows for a card to have 3 types. At which point he will get the devil typing back making him a dragon type, machine type and devil type.
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Steve in reply to mccool37 3 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
Is there confirmation he will gain a devil subtype again? I really hope you are right.
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By Dennis 4 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I just don't like the art as much as the unevolved form. It's lost its intricacy and detailing.

I mean, the top half still looks badass. Cannons and all that. But the bottom half, round stubby legs attempting to run fast. It's just sad to see.
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By Tnewport 4 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
I got him (looks at comments and laughs at everyone else)
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By Patbert 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
So, something I just found out that would have been nice to know before evolving this guy.

The comments on this page talked about the awakenings going with him in his evolution. What they didn't mention is that it only carries over the awakenings on Hadar, not the Red, Blue, Green, or Yellow ones.

I had fully awoken Betelgeuse etc in here, but my Hadar didn't have any. Big 5-Dragon Hadar is now back asleep; no awakenings.
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Dillon 3 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
well betelgeuse isnt the only evolving lol
hadar is the one evolving durr
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