6 ★
MP 1 Cost 23
 *1 Experience gain bonus from same element
 *2 Weighted Stat: HP / 10 + ATK / 5 + RCV / 3
Active: Menace
Delay 3 turns to all enemies.
CD: 15 Turns ( 10 Turns at Lv.6 )
This card cannot be used as assist.
Leader: Flamme Rouge
Deal ATK x5 damage to all enemies after every orbs elimination. Ignores enemy element, but can be reduced by enemy defense down to 0 damage.
Skill Up Cards
Applicable Killer Latents
Awoken Skills
Ultimate Evolution
Reverse Ultimate Evolution by using
Grayed out Japanese cards
Healer Girl Series
Drop Locations for #1099
This card can be obtained by:
- Evolution from Empress of Serpents, Echidna
Other tiers of this card can be obtained from:
Sky Dragons' Domain
Legendary Dragons' Footprints
Jupiter, City in the Sky
Mars Crater
Frozen Soil of Prosell
Vesta Cave
Hyperion Lava Flow
Tower of Nature
Tower of Flare
Castle of Satan
Fire Forest Nerva
Volcano of Vulcan
Jormungandr Descended!
Hexazeon Descended!
Legendary Flame Dragon
Sky Dragon of Flame
Flame Mechdragon
Fire Carnival
Scarlet Snake Princess
Christmas Dungeon
Alt. Jupiter, City in the Sky
Alt. Frozen Soil of Prosell
Alt. Vesta Cave
Alt. Tower of Nature
Alt. Tower of Flare
Alt. Castle of Satan
October Quest Dungeon
September Quest Dungeon
Dragon Challenge 2!
Norse Challenge!
February Quest Dungeon
June Quest Dungeon
October Quest Dungeon-Expert
August Quest Dungeon-Expert
October Quest Dungeon-Expert
'19 May Quest Dungeon-Expert
'19 April Quest Dungeon-Expert
November Quest Dungeon
December Quest Dungeon
May Quest Dungeon
August Quest Dungeon-Novice to Int.
'19 May Quest Dungeon-Novice
Descended Challenge! 34
Descended Challenge! 30
Descended Challenge! 28
Descended Challenge! 22
Descended Challenge! 18
One-Shot Challenge! 3
Alt. Temple of Trailokya
Alt. Shrine of Blazing Woods
Alt. Shrine of Liquid Flame
Alt. Castle of Satan in Abyss
Ancient Dragons' Mystic Realm
Beelzebub Tournament
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By lufusol 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Her monster number is 1099... Independent Contractor, Echidna
Snocean 3 years ago ( 9.0.3 ) 
I wouldn't trust her to pay me, she'll turn into a menace on payday.
By J.T. 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
I want her now!
C in reply to Vincent 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Sanspai@PF 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
I just got her now. ✌
Vincent 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
i want it too
By Phantom@PG 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
y u no make echidna half devil. T-T
DethCudlz 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Screw half-devil. I want half-dragon!
Azurium in reply to C. Falcon 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Well, Lilith is in the Healer Girl series and she got a Devil subtype.
Kitt in reply to DethCudlz 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
I won't ask much, any type would do, as long as she have sub-type. BUT they not even give her a sub-type.
Popstick 4 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
half attacker type!!!!
C. Falcon in reply to Azurium 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
true... but if echidna got devil type it would be way OP
lufusol in reply to DethCudlz 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
If you want a double-red dragon type monster with delay you want Zeta Hydra
C. Falcon 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Maybe because it is in the healer girl series
MLG OTTERS in reply to lufusol 4 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
One of my first REM rolls was Zeta Hydra.
Pinkie_Pie in reply to DethCudlz 2 years ago ( 9.5.1 ) 
I have a silly idea for a 2nd Uevo since everyone but her and Siren got one. In her 2nd Uevo she acquires an Awoken Hinokagutsuchi hoodie (looking like one of those florida gator masks like so ). Make it boost her leader skill to x10 and add a TPA! (basically that she's trying to 'mimic big brosnek's style')'
BaronDan in reply to Azurium 2 years ago ( 11.1.1 ) 
Turns out I got her 1st monster a hundred times. Never knew that little lady turned into THIS!!!! STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!!!
Kaneki in reply to Popstick 4 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
Na attacker types usually have low rcv and medium health devil is best most ppl use this monster with Devils red sonia ftw!

By Falcon 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
How do you rationalize boosting her attack by 400 points and then not give her an attacker subtype? Gung D'oh!
By stimpy 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Imagine if echidna had a dark and devil sub type!!! Wow.

That will never happen.
One can dream!!!
Dillon 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
No need to imagine anymore it already exists just give gungho all your money lol
Last edited by Dillon 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 )
By -Striku- 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
I recommend having 3 echidnas in your monster box.

1st echidna (ultimate evo) will be your main one for high tier team builds (max level is very good)

2nd echidna (3rd stage) for Gaia and xuanzang descended.
(You need to have this one level 99 because you need your full potential to battle Gaia. It's better to have 2 lvl 99 echidnas rather than switching between evolution forms and wasting a ton of evo materials unless you have a huge excess of them)

3rd echidna (2nd stage) for tengu and draggie
Even though it will take a huge amount of work, with all the skill ups and leveling, it will become very worth it!
Last edited by -Striku- 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 )
By AiLied 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
One thing to keep in mind is that this ultimate changes her stat growth in RCV from early peaker to normal, so she actually has less RCV than her non ultimate form until nearly max level.
By Habib 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Well.. In the past three SSP events, I've managed to pull a collective 41 nagas.. too bad my echidna is now 0/44 on skill ups.. just to verify, Naga actually does skill her up, right?
RaiAkashi 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Wow...that's My condolences for your very poor fortunes.
Handlebars in reply to nerdotaku 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
naga does skill her up, look under her skill where it says "skilled up by:"
ŞŦΔŘĐΔŦ€ in reply to Handlebars 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
That's some great info however, I can't find where it says that. Where is it located?
Nish in reply to RaiAkashi 4 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
During this latest SSP with 2x skill up chance I went 25 with no skill up 32 with one skill up and 60 before full skill up. My friend did it in 8-9 feeds. Very frustrating. Nagas work.
Pootyclown 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 

ive been able to max skill a new naga every time ssp comes around since i was able to reliably clear expert difficulty four times ago without even seriously trying to max skill her or spend a single stone.
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By Skyknight 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
Unfortunately, it doesn't look like Echidna will be getting a fire/light or fire/dark ultimate. 1098 is occupied by Herakles, and 1101 is occupied by one of Alraune's ultimates. That leaves only 1100 for a Seiren ultimate. (Which means that she's not getting a second ultimate, either.)

1098--Herakles evolved
1099--Echidna ultimate
1100--(unreleased Seiren ultimate)
1101--Alraune ultimate 1
1102--Alraune ultimate 2

The good news is that there seems to be room for two Lilith ultimates. Still, I would have liked to see a fire/light ultimate for Echidna for my nascent Artemis team. Yes, even with Artemis making the viability of fire orbs less than normal. (Stun Gloves Batman flat-out refused to pop up for me.)
nerdotaku in reply to SoWL 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
4 months later. . .
SoWL 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
Pretty sure GH said on stream that she's going to get a second ulti, it's just that its artwork isn't ready yet.
bigbuff in reply to SoWL 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
I come from the future. It is May 7th 2015. Artwork on that second ulti is yet to be finished...or confirmed. 😬

Fingers still crossed though 👌
Allegedly 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
Not yet anyway.
Kiwi@PG 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
what about Lilith?
iruleallz in reply to SoWL 5 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
If it wasn't eigh moths since it happened.

27/10/14 AND 28/10/14
«§» Brodin in reply to bigbuff 4 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Still no alternate ult evo.
MLG OTTERS 4 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
You're forgetting a detail. If number 8 uevos into 1029, then it's possible to put her ult evo deeper into the monster book.
By Victor 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
bad stats. ugh.
Firecat 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
She doesn't need better stats because she boasts one of the best active skills in the entire game. She's perfectly useable as she is, has passable attack, and great RCV. Her main weakness is her HP which can be supplemented by either A) Using her in a Metatron team or B) choosing subs that have high HP to offset her low HP.

She's still one of the best cards in the game.
lufusol in reply to Firecat 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Or you can boost her stats with +eggs which are pretty easy to accumulate by the time you are far enough in the game to care
~ユキカゼ 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
found you ;)
By ZIGGIEBOMB 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
Waiting for another ult evo….is she getting one?
By Kai-Yol@PF 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Can a Naga get a two-prong?

Seriously though, love my Echidna, but she would become so much more relevant again if they'd just add a couple more awoken skills and maybe a subtype. God or Dragon would make sense maybe since it would offer some balance to the attacker op trend lately. (Though, don't get me wrong, I'd definitely love to make her a permanent addition to my Attackerasu team, as well)
Wingus in reply to Shinzan 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Can anyone confirm this?
Shinzan 4 years ago ( 7.5 ) 
They just revealed Awoken Echidna in the Japanese stream from three days ago so you might get your wish of two-prong attack.
By Curtis 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Does anyone know if there's ever going to be another Uvo for Echidna? She's certainly still very useful in specific situations but I'd love to see some higher stats and maybe a sub-type. I know that Orochi has a similar active skill and has much higher stats but his CD takes a lot longer and he's a lot harder to skill up than Echidna. How does everyone else feel about another Uvo for this lovely lady?
By justagod 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
How is this possible? Just spent 6-7 stones this weekend on getting nagas...Got 20. Waited until x2 skillup started. Not a single skill up. That is just not right. If you have 5 in the power up box. One should be guaranteed.
drgnwzrd 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
During a 2x event, the probability of skill up is 20% per monster (based on empirical evidence), so the probability isn't 5x20% = 100% guaranteed skill up, but rather 100% - (probability of no skill up), which is 100% - 80%*80%*80%*80%*80% (which is 32% still a large percentage), so the probability of not getting a skill up, even with 5 monsters on a 2x event is still roughly 1 in 3, though you're 67% likely to get a skill up with 5 monsters, vs 20% with one.
GuyDudeman in reply to Guest 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
The gambler's fallacy is something else, by your argument the odds of flipping a coin 5 times in a row and getting heads each time is 50%. While each coin flip has a 50% chance of being heads, the chances of getting heads each time is .50^5 = .03125 or 3.125%. The gambler's fallacy is assuming that if the first 3 flips are heads, the last 2 will also be heads, when, assuming a fair coin, the first 3 flips have nothing to do with the others. That said, I don't know how it works in PaD, but if it rolls the random number generator each time, you would have about a 2/3 chance of getting at least 1 skill up with 5 monsters (I don't know if it does work that way or not, so I always feed my skill monsters 1 at a time, if someone could clarify that multiple skill ups are possible in 1 fusion, I'd appreciate it.)
Last edited by GuyDudeman 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )
GuyDudeman in reply to Psykios 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
Actually, rereading what justagod said, if I understand correctly it is extremely unlucky. He said it should guarantee a skill up if you put 5 in the box as a suggested feature, not a mathematical certainty, he also said he got TWENTY Echidnas and (I assume) fed all of them to one. The 1/3 chance was for feeding 5 Echidnas/Nagas, if he fed 20, the math works out to 80% * 80% ... 20 times (so .8^20) which gives a 1.15% chance of no skill up, or about a 99% chance of AT LEAST 1 skill up (the math for more than 1 is complicated, but the expected number of skill ups would be 4 if it is indeed a 20% chance, sadly, reality rarely follows statistics on a small scale.)
lufusol in reply to GuyDudeman 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Multiple Skill Ups are definitely possible in a single power-up. Haven't you ever fed a bunch of knights together and gotten "Skill Up!", "Skill Up!"? It will pop up "Skill Up!" as many times in a row as it worked.

My theory on how the skill ups work is that each monster actually has a hidden affinity (or attributes) that weight their likeliness to skill up at all (or their likeliness to skill up from being fed certain monsters of the same skill), and then the normal skill up possibility applies to that secondary affinity rather than being a flat "20% chance of skill up" more like "20% chance of getting a (hidden%) chance" where that (hidden%) might be 10% for Echidna and 100% for, say, Songstress.

There's got to be more than we're being shown in the formula because pretty much everyone agrees that Echidna is super hard to skill up feeding nagas, WAY less than a 20% overall success rate, but Songstress can eat a hand full of marine goblins and big bubblies and seems to skill up AT LEAST 20% of the time, if not more!
Guest in reply to drgnwzrd 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
That is a statistical inaccuracy, known as the Gambler's Fallacy. Because the chance of each naga giving a skill up is a separate event, the probability of a skill up or no skill up does not stack. The chance of a skill up during a 2x event is 20%, regardless of how many monsters you fuse at once.
Bulwyf in reply to GuyDudeman 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
@GuyDudeman - Yes, multiple skillups are possible in 1 fussion. (you can fuse 5 monsters into 1 and get 2 level ups, sometimes more if you're extremely lucky.
JPLjoseph in reply to GuyDudeman 5 years ago ( 7.1.2 ) 
here is how math works kids:
20% skill up chance, and 5 monsters are being thrown in
there is and 80% chance any given monster will NOT skill up, that being said, going back to the comment about fusing 5 in at once there is and 80%^5 (or .8^5) chance you will not get a single skill-up or a 32.87% chance. that being said, adding multiple skill-up monsters does not effect your average number of skill-ups in anyway. you will still average 1 skill-up out of 5 monsters fed.(THIS DOESN'T GUARANTEE ANYTHING) So now that that's cleared up lets stop complaining to the world and just keep our skill-up related frustration to ourselves. THANK YOU AND GOODBYE!
Gaiden@PG 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Between breakers and demons, I have had several times where I have gotten two or three skill ups in the same power up fusion. On the other side, I have had times where I have went two or three tries and burned through 10 or 15 skill uppers and gotten 0 skill ups. I believe that PAD calculates each individual mob against it's individual rate for each dungeon, skill up, +1, etc. I have received multiple skill ups in one fusion and multiple +1s in one dungeon run.
such doge in reply to GuyDudeman 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
I fed 3 taur devils at once to a hell frost demon and got 2 skill ups, so I'm inclined to say multiple skill ups are possible
Æro in reply to GuyDudeman 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Actually, it is possible to get multiple skill ups during one fusion process, provided you use multiple monsters. I have, on very rare occasion received two skill ups during a process. It's why I always thought I stood better chances feeding multiples at once. Echidna seems the one monster that is refusing to skill up.
Jimtin tin in reply to lufusol 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
I Agree with the hidden numbers theory. And it would be nice to see where this 20% came from. (Not a challenge I just never saw a solid source).

Basic Numbers last run

Collected 24 Echidnas, fed them in increments of 5 (except for last one set) got 3 skill ups.

Like all dungeons I noticed an almost double increase in drops in the last hour the dungeon was up. ( Seriously try Technical on + egg events and 1.5 x drop at 11 P.M. I nailed 5 out of 10 plus eggs)
Psykios in reply to Lexington 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
@Lexington: That's directly NOT what he's saying. You have the SAME low chance to get a skill up, whether you feed them 5-at-a-time, one-at-a-time, 3-at a time, 4--it's all the same chance, calculated SEPARATELY.
Essentially, justagod was unlucky, but his particular, crappy outcome was not THAT unlikely, given a 1/3 chance.
Last edited by Psykios 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 )
Lexington in reply to drgnwzrd 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
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By Zekir 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
Welcome to the EN server Echidna!
By Trolololol 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Those monsters will freeze in fear at Echidna's menacing look.
Wait, she's fire AND fire? That makes my previous statement ironic in its own way.
By Æro 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
I'm getting tired of this B$, I have fed 20+ Echidna to my main Echidna and she has not skill leveled up once, and before anyone says it it, yes I have done them all during x2 period. I know she is farmable now but it is still a slim drop rate even on the weekends when it is doubled. A maxed skilled Echidna is one of the key monsters I'm needing to beat many of the descended dungeons.
By 神PBR@PG 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
do you guys like flamme rogue challenges?
ronan 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
How does that work?
神PBR@PG in reply to ronan 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
It's when you do a dungeon with Echidna as a leader with someone else's echidna
By Hero 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
yay finally made her, so happy! she so pretty!!!
By candygirl 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Geez I love her!
By Sanspai@PF 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
This is the most used of the healer girls.

and she doesn't have have an attacker subtype even if her atk>HP.

Gungho could give attacker subtype. Would at least be a payback for not having a "unique" skill up. e.e
Last edited by Sanspai@PF 4 years ago ( 7.5 )
By supereece 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
will they be doing an ult for all of these girls or just her?

edit: lol dumb question i only just saw them after i wrote this
Last edited by supereece 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 )
By Guest 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
What would be the best level to ult the empress at to get this evo? Because I keep reading around that if you don't evo her at a certain time that you'll actually miss out on the attk boost. Is that true?
Last edited by N/A 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 )
Thalis 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
That's not true.
Psykios 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
No, silly. Even if you wait until Empress is level 100 and THEN ulted her, the difference between states would just be added in to look just like what you see on the top of this page. Do it whenever, but the lower the level empress is, the less the coin cost.
runest 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
Her growth curve changes when she ulti evos, so some of her stats will drop if you ulti her when her level is too low. You can do a quick check of her stats at different levels using this website. That being said, she does get a secondary fire element, so even if her attack manages to drop a little, she still might do more damage overall (against monsters with low defense) :)
By Zuhalter 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
If you have he as leader and a helper who give attack bonus to Healer types, does it affect her leadership skill?

I mean if her attack is 1349 base, her leadership skill is 5 x 1349 or 6745. If your helper is 2 X ATK to Healer types, is her leadership skill now 5 x 2 x 1349 or 13490? Just curious.
nigslay 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
It's only based on her attack, multipliers don't work on the effect, if it did that would be OP.
By C. Falcon 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
OMG I've been waiting ages for super rubies to come around so I can level her and my 2 horus :'(
By GregAmeric 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
She is my second fav! Her and Yomi bicker constantly, but only because it has been a long journey ."are we there yet?". " "no , a couple more turns"...
By Freddy 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
I think it would be great if gungho modified these farmable Healer Girls and/or added another Ult evo for many reasons. One is that their awakening skills are pretty abysmal overall. Echidna seems to be the only monster of this group that is still fairly used regularly and her awakenings are really poor. Second kind of ties into the first point in that these monsters are farmable (and REM unfortunately) and since the list of valuable monsters that you can farm is very short (outside of Descend dungeons, like Athena). I know that gungho wants people to use the REM and pay for stones, but it would be nice if there were a few monsters that were farmable and useful (once again, outside descends). I'm talking about guys that had like 5-7 awakening skills or maybe even valuable leader skills (since Echidna's and Siren's LS are pretty much obsolete, except for mindless lower-level farming). Idk I'm just throwing it out there; I'm quite content with the game as well as my teams but it would be nice to have something like this lol.
By terminalx 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
I got extra echidna and siren hoping they get new ults.
By DKnight 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Tip: This one of the rare monsters that's worth de-evoing for low cost dungeons like Gaia. Her uevo mats are cheap once you're at the point of being able to attempt that dungeon. So you can save the trouble of skilling up extra Echidna by de-evoing her with the lits, clearing that dungeon then evo her back.
Last edited by DKnight 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 )
epharian 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Why not just keep a 2nd one. Yes her drop rate sucks, but seriously, why not just hang on to one of those?
Pjj in reply to epharian 4 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
If you've invested a lot of +'s in her then it would definitely be reasonable. And the time to farm all the skillups isn't nothing.
By nickjr 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
0.0 my condolences to everyone who had or is having a difficult time skilling up Echidna.

I can't really empathize since, uh, I got my Echidna max skilled with three groups of five Nagas each -runs away from the flaming pitchforks-
By Junpei 4 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
ugh Gung Ho my OCD is killing me here. Give her and Siren alt subs. She deserves it. Imagine if she was a sub green attacker. She doesn't even need an extra awoken skill. She would instantly be thrown into Verdandi teams among many other viable teams.

Maybe she would be OP idk but I would love to see this finally happen. She is without a doubt why I have been able to pass some of the hardest dungeons in the game but she hurts the overall damage output of a lot of my teams.
Last edited by Junpei 4 years ago ( 8.1.1 )
By joey 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
When is she available to NA?
Singsiblaw 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
By skdtkd 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
Empress of serpents is awesome cant wait for the us
By Killerfroy 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
Finally available to U.S now she was worth it
By Jay 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
I wonder why she has only one type of ult evo unlike rest of the healer ladies.
WukngBalla 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
she is the most used one so they scared of making her OP
q in reply to WukngBalla 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
too late
By ogc@pg 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
so all you get is just 400 more atk? I guess I will wait for a while, just in case they have another ultimate evo for her coming out later.
Flamie 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
while 400 attack may seem like a small buff she was already great on many teams with her active skill and healer teams could always use an attack buff. the 400 attack also adds to the new leader skill which rivals kagutsuchi in wiping out easy dungeons like daily thursdays.
By Thalis 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
Just did the ultimate evo on her. I'm bummed she didn't get a 2nd type behinds healer, should be a god also like the Angel.
By mj gerbers 5 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) 
Can we get her in us now?
foskia 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
nope. you have to be in her, not her in you lol
*pervert-mode off*
By Hudson 5 years ago ( 6.4.2 ) 
I am very disapointed with ult siren and ult echidna, while lilith, alraune and archangel got sub types, they are still only healer, they should be balanced or attacker subtype as alraune and lilith
By 神PBR@PG 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Wow thats unfairEchidna's the only one without a skill up. Even Archangel at least has a skill up. (Even though it'hard to get)
By rainydayze 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
best farmable monster monster with cost effectiveness. Pretty much in every red group...Please nerf.

(No seriously don't nerf please)
By Tutholl 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Anyone ever thought of an all echidna team I mean think about it menace stalls for three turns so if you used six menaces that would be 18 turns until the enemy attacked and by then the skill would be recharged so basically you'd never get hit except when changing waves and even then you could stagger the menaces so that you could always have one available... Idk just a thought
ELam 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
Unfortunately, delay debuffs do not stack. If you already used a delay debuff (like menace), you have to wait until it expires before another delay debuff can be used again. That means you can only use it once every 4 turns and cannot create an infinite delay strategy (which would be insanely broken). You could, however have 3 maxed skilled and pop it every time the debuff expires (albeit that's kinda a waste of time to farm that much)...I haven't even max skilled a single one yet
Nalgaeryn 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
There are two Batman with delay (1 turn and 2 turn) and Okuninushi is 1 turn, and Orochi is 5 turn, so there are many ways to get multiple delays without duplicating monsters on your team.
Sean in reply to Nalgaeryn 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
That's irrelevant since, as stated above, delay debuffs do not stack. If you use batman's intimidate,you have to let it expire before using orochi's force.
lufusol in reply to Sean 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I can confirm this, skills do not have to be identical for the game to prevent you stacking them, it's the status the skill inflicts that the game prevents you stacking. I have Zeta Hydra (5 turn delay), Echidna (3 turn) and D/D Batman (1 turn) and none of them can be used simultaneously (while the others' ability is still in effect).
Legend7Nat 4 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
what you can do though is when it's at 1 turn timer you can use an elemental shield for 3 turns or a regular shield. I can confirm that because that is how I ran Keeper of Rainbow when i was a low level and no odin friend.
By Vincent 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
I want it
Vincent 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
bonus attack
By nturtle 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Best active skill in the game, I don't care what anyone says!
By Rinna 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Is awakening it fully worth it? Otherwise, how many should I awaken?
By Jonathan 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Should I use this or viper orochi on my ra team? Or should I use both?
Roland 4 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 
Her active is quicker to get I'm not sure what team you'd ever use them both on that would make sense. Orochi water is physical/god and Echi is a fire healer. They have no awokens that work well together. Maybe if you wanted to make up a team of delay people lol, but I'm not really sure how successful that team would be. That said, if you had Kushinadahime you could probably run a team with those two, but probably only have success with it in a tri color dungeon.
By Guest 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
okay, so I'm new at this so I am bound to make mistakes. i just tried to ultimate evolve her by doing a power-up fusion using the monsters listed here, but nothing happened. just got some xp. does she have to be max level first? i thought i read somewhere that they don't have to be level 99 to ult evo. can someone clarify for me please? thank you
DethCudlz 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
There's a couple possibilities. You're right, she doesn't need to be level 99. I think I ultimated her at 15.

The most common thing that I've heard happen is mistaking Keeper of Rainbow and Keeper of Dark. Easy to do, since they're both purple and look very similar. I almost did that.

The important thing to look out for is the "Begin Fusion" button. If it's not pulsing, something's wrong. If it IS pulsing, you get a quick animation followed by two buttons. Gotta make sure you hit "Evolve" or you'll just get experience and that's it. (Another lesson I learned the hard way)
By DethCudlz 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
What with the half-snake thing, I could see her getting a dragon sub type. But I think then she'd be too powerful.
lufusol 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
GungHo doesn't like to give snake-and-serpent style monsters Dragon type. Viper Orochi, for instance.
By Cchu 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Help please. My echidna, vampire and many other monsters are max leveled at 99. I also collected all the ultimate evolution material. I just cannot ult-evolve anything. When I choose evolution and select the monster, say echidna, the evolution screen does not pop out. Instead, it pops out the description of the monster. I am playing the English version using ipad.

Do I have to change into the JP version?
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xyz 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Click power-up fusion instead of evo fusion. Select the monster you want to ult-evolve, select all the correct material, you should see "begin fusion" start flashing, click that, then it will give you options either ult-evolve or power up.
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Cchu in reply to xyz 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Thank you, man! I just evolved my ADK, will do echidna and others.
lufusol in reply to Cchu 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
FYI you don't have to be Lv. 99 to UEVO. You just have to achieve their "final" evolution (that is the highest non-UEVO). I frequently perform a final evolution and then immediately perform their ultimate evolution at level 1. (The ultimate will also give you exp of the evo mats being used, so you'll get some early levels from that).
By SkullCurly 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Ok noob question but if I do the ult evo will I keep the monsters lv and awakening skills?
Austin 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
You will keep the awakening skills or # of awakening skills but your level will not it will probably level up.
By nagato 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
So like a fire/dark devil sub or a fire/light balanced sub would be great I mean im leaning towards devil
By shelbr0 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
I feel her next ult needs to be either devil or god. Does anyone else second my opinion? Maybe a KoG ult or something to make it possible.
Freddy 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
A devil sub would be awesome and perfect for what she is (a snake) but won't happen since she would make Ronia/ Lu Bu ever more OP due to her delay. I'm hoping for atleast better awakenings/ maybe a better leader skill
By Davvinchi 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
It's funny this doesn't have an attacker subtype, GH added 400 to atk. I know there are a lot of calls for an alt uvo with devil type and I'd love to see an evil sorceress echidna that would require a devlit or two, but this one (being red red and all) just seems like GH decided she was going to be attacker then forgot to click the add subtype button before releasing her to the wilds of pad
By ✰Pollux✰ 5 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) 
you're gonna want this eventually
By Bryggyth 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
Ok, fire has echidna, water has Orochi, but the only delay wood has so far is that hello kitty monster.
I say make a 4 turn 12 or 13 turn max cooldown delay wood/dark monster. That would be awesome. And some skills boosts or an extra time awakenings seeing as its main use will be on spike damage teams.
By Matt 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
The materials are not right. I just wasted all of them trying to Ultament Evo
pooker 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
I'm sorry it didn't work for you. I did it a few weeks ago and it worked fine.

When you are using an ultimate evolution, after you select all the materials, you must check the "Begin Fusion"to see if it pulsing yellow and green and it has a shadow that is spreading to the left and right of the text.
By Dante 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Just Evo'ed her! So happy! My first Ult evo, I see the healer girls all have decent to good Ult evo's, working on Archangel now. They aren't overpowering like some critters are, but really solid, nonetheless. And dat delay is perfect for when GungHo suddenly decides they don't want you to have heal gems
Dante 5 years ago ( 7.2.1 ) 
Is funny, beat the Tech level that opens up the Challenges. And good ol' Echidna, dealing over 6k regardless of what I combo... I haven't even been bothering picking a team. It doesn't matter, she just mows all those lesser levels down... JUST in time for a god fest, used all the magic stones, and pulled a few very good Gods :D
By yukari17 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I don't see if this was answered, so I'm gonna ask.
Plus, this sounds obvious but I'm unsure. :(

You have Ult. Evo Echidna as Leader and you have helper with Leader Skill x2 ATK to Healer types. Does that boost Echidna's leader skill damage?
Salsiga 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
By Avelarius 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
When I am done playing with dragons, you are next. Along with Red Valkyrie, Lilith and King Shynee. Good to know I have a 27x spike healer team sitting on my box. Hard to decide who is next in line for the plus attack eggs after Dragon Shogun. Echidina or Lilith? Poison or spike?
Firecat 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Echidna is going to be the third card I +egg after L.Meta and Kirin...I Echidna in like 5 of my main teams.
Avelarius in reply to Firecat 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I was mistaken. I checked her attack and it was the bigger one among the healer girls I have but her power is the active that counts as a 3x attack and 3x healing. I forgot to factor Valkyrie's two prong that gives her 50% more attack. Also fire has one weakness while Lilith's dark power has none and counts as attack x echidina delay x as many turns as you can survive minus defense. So now I think Lilith should have the atk eggs first.
By LHN 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Noob question here, but is her leader skill 5 times her attack or 5 times the attack of your team?
Roland 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
Her attack
Dante 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
She would be so massively OP if other LS mattered, for sure
By VisMortua 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I have the mats to ult evo her but is it viable for me? I'm trying to make a general burst team with my leilan or should i focus on something else?
purin 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
yes but you should ult evo her regardless! her stats go up a lot and tbh you can throw her on pretty much any team.
Dante 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Plus, as soon as you get to Legendary Dragons' Footprints, you can find more Nagas pretty easy, they drop in Burning Hell fairly often, I plan on getting a max skill of the last 2, if not three evos, that active is such a lifesaver, and would be awesome in cost restrict dungeons
By GregAmeric 5 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
What road are we on? blazing highway, red road,and red serpant! Don't ask again!
By Nirumi 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
What's the best way to farm skillups for her?
Avelarius 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Legendary Dragons' Footprints is very good to acquire, awake and skill up all healer girls.

You also get RGB starters, all rippers and the final boss gives 17K exp and can skill up starters and late bloomers.

I went to Abyss several times for dark exp and ended up with a max skilled Lilith plus 3 copies for awakening.
By stoic 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Legendary dragon footprint ty for allowing me to max skill this hot snake woman in one week time of farming.
By Sanspai@PF 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
That moment when you see that your first uevo is one of the best monsters of the game.

Also, for everyone who wanted a devil sub type:
That would be sooooo OP. She would fit extremely well in a ronia team, with her high attacks and skyrocketed rcv.
By epharian 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Here's the question, aside from healer teams, why would I ever use her over Zeta Hydra (presuming one has zeta)?

Same F/F combo, hydra has MUCH better HP (but less than half RCV, so there's that), and TPA.

Also, hydra has a 5 turn delay vs. her 3 turn.

I get that her skillups are farmable, and that has a much better CD in the long run, but generally with a 5 turn delay, anything you've delayed is dead at the end.


Of course, if you have ORochi, then it's all about what colors you need.
Corltan 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Pretty much what you need to kill should be dead with a 3 turn delay, 5 turns is probably overkill. Plus there may be times when you need to delay twice in a dungeon which you can do off a 10 turn CD with some stalling.

EDIT: Also waiting for the much longer CD on Orochi may not be possible on hard descends.
By Panda4u 4 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
why is she called Echidna....she dosnt look like one....guys look it up on google O_o
Dyinanic 4 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) 
The echidna here refers to not the animal but the mythological creature, mother of monsters
By nturtle 4 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
Years later and she still has one of the best actives in the entire game. Echidna's immune to power creep as long as her active remains exclusive.
By Yog-Sothot 4 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
Why is she only rated 7.7 but is on half the teams?
Fenrir 4 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) 
Rating are based on categories, Appearance, Active, and Team synergy are all near maxed, but her awakened skills are bad and her leader skill is only good for farming weak stuff.
sc0rch3d 3 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
My guess, in mid game (about to crest late game), she's a bittersweet sub. For someone like me (rank 149), my team is not yet strong enough to tackle just any level...still can't beat first level of starlight sanctuary.

Therefore, you begrudgingly add her to your team (which my strongest team is devil, thus she doesn't help) to save you on those high HP boss levels. I'm only going for uevo due to increase in attack b/c I can pair my ronia (devil multiplier) with a friend ares (red multiplier).

researching all the recommended farming teams, barely any have echnida or they have characters (like neo exdeath) with a delay built in to their active attack.
By Vip3re 4 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
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Junpei 4 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
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By Vip3re 4 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Should I give her Flampys? I know she's somewhat farmable, but rarely drops and seems hard to skill up, judging by the comments. I'm hesitant because I also have Goemon to skill up.
Eiro80 4 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Of course not. Give those flampys to your Uvo Goemon (no.2006) because its a great card and besides is almost impossible to skill up.
Vip3re in reply to Eiro80 4 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
Thank you, that's what I thought, I was so tempted because Echidna got me out of trouble so many times and she's almost always in my teams. I love Goemon, but sadly, his Physical/Dragon type doesn't fit well in my current teams.
By doodoobee 4 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 
her hp's are a joke for a ulti healer :/
By grandpixel 4 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
I learned the hard way, Echidnas do not stack. :(
By Flariza 4 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) 
Has anyone noticed that gadius and echidna has the same weapons, I think they would make the perfect couple.
By Thadd 3 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) 
It's amazing how long we've gone without seeing this card get a buff. Due to it's active skill and it being easy to acquire they don't seem keen on helping her out. :(
By Thunder 3 years ago ( 9.2.1 ) 
I have her for a leader. I love her LS and Skill.
By Ixzine 2 years ago ( 11.1.1 ) 
By Nick|RDE 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
Give this evoloution to the US please
angerrro 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
She is now available for EN. I didn't even realize it until now but I think it happened 4 days ago! :D Just ulti evolved mine, I love herrr
By Shikka 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
i wish this girl didnt have miserable stats, if it wasnt for the active im pretty sure no one would talk about her except for maybe being a pretty head haha
Max 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Miserable stats?
What the heck are you talking about?
Her HP may be miserable but the attack is okay and most importantly the RCV is excellent (something that other fire monsters tend to be horribly lacking).
By Michael 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
Why couldn't they ( GungHo ) just expand the monster book?
Fingers crossed, for both that and the accelerated Echidna Ult getting here soon!
By Masaki 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
She's available now.
By riddler 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 
just got 3 skill ups out of 5 nagas...unbelievable but true!
By Unkownism 5 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) 
Cao cao has become a possible replacement to her, orb change in addition to stalling is great, her recovery & the extra 2 turns is awesome though the high atk & hp of cao may make up for the lack of recovery. Cao is even only 2 cost points more so no worries there. I have to agree with -Striker0- in terms of having the multiple stages for different dungeons as that's what it really comes down to.
By yukari17 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
I don't see if this was answered, so I'm gonna ask. Plus, this sounds obvious but I'm unsure. :( You have Ult. Evo Echidna as Leader and you have helper with Leader Skill x2 ATK to Healer types. Does that boost Echidna's leader skill damage?
yukari17 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
OOPS... :(
Sorry about the double post.
By daniel 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
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By Fat_Moist 5 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 
Would a team of six of these maxed skilled work. Just Daley the enemy when he gets to 1 and your skills would recharge everytime so you wouldnt take a single hit.
神up!朱雀殿 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
How about Google it or look at the comment 2 below for that matter?
By Greg! 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
Can someone pls comment "yes noob"
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C. Falcon 5 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) 
yes noob
By Leeanne 5 years ago ( 7.1.1 ) 
Really ticked off. My ultimate evo did not take effect.
By Arri 4 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 
Anyone else curious how she keeps the enemies pre-occupied for 3 turns?
otaku 4 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) 
She threatens to go yandere on them. 😀
By ryanatk 4 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) 
Does any1 else call her Ultimate Enchilada?
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Jaysinnn 5 years ago ( 6.3.0 ) 
If they gave her Fire/Light, she'd just be a slightly better attribute stick to Kirin, Horus, etc. If they gave her Fire/Dark, she'd be on every Luci team practically overnight, and she'd be even better for Haku, Horus, etc. I think she's nice and balanced as she is; she's already arguably the most sought after Healer girl, no need to blow all the other competition out of the water.
lufusol in reply to -Striku- 5 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) 
So bring an unbindable bind-recover monster on your team ;)
-Striku- 5 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 
It's good to have a variety of attributes on her, but don't forget that she will be greatly exposed by binds
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